kiesi wrote:
>>As a new users should absolutely positively not be using a beta
>>version of POV-Ray.
> 
> Come on! I'm running 4 or 5 Versions of Pov-Ray.
> I think everyone is allowed to use Betas.
> I didn't see the sign sayin: "Not for new users" ;)

This has nothing to do with being "allowed to use Betas", nobody here wants 
to deny you the right to use a beta version!  You are free to hurt yourself. 
  If your problems aren't a clear sign "Not for new users" to you, fine, but 
please do not hurt others by posting about known problems of old beta 
versions in groups where they do not belong!

Your posts clearly indicate that you do not know how to participate in a 
beta test and did not read or understand the list of known bugs.  Not only 
did you manage to use an old beta version, you did not even mention that you 
are using a beta version at all until someone explicitly asked.  Both is not 
surprising given you are a new users.

Further, you clearly have general problems using POV-Ray, and thus the 
*last* thing you want is having to wonder if you made a mistake or it is 
just a bug in the beta version.  If you haven't noticed so far, doing that 
is a total waste of time for you.  Even worse, you also waste the time of 
those trying to help you when they first have to ask for version information 
and it turns out your are using an outdated beta version.

Clearly we are not going to try to make the beta website foolproof by 
telling new users to stay away.  It should be common sense not to use a beta 
version of any software when you are just learning how to use it.

	Thorsten

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