dan B hentschel wrote:
> Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> 
>>You are right but he is adding nothing that is helpful or new while
>>subtlely reinforcing the prejudice against mesh modeling.  We, on the
>>other side of the table, are willing to let it drop. You also have shown
>>admirable constraint.  Why can't he?
> 
> 
> I'm very sorry. It was not my intention to be at all derogatory or divisive.
> In fact, I was hoping to create a common frame of reference to promote

> that this was a dead topic, or that I would be re-opening any wounds. I
> should have looked at the time stamps before responding. Again, I apologize
> if I offended anyone with my post.
> 

> who are skilled at third-party modelers. I, myself, have tried Wings3D and
> failed miserably. I am always very impressed (sometimes awestruck) with

> trying to belittle those who use mesh modelers.
> 
>  - dan B hentschel
> 
> 
Apology accepted and I apologize in return, doubly so because your 
apology may not have been strictly necessary and I, meanwhile, knowingly 
exploited your good will. But you may not have understood how I see your 
attempt at a reasoned argument as just one more reinforcement of a 
prejudice. In the end, I didn't know any other way to make my point than 
to attack your intention.  Your discussion wasn't so bad imo, it did 
focus on external v internal rather well.  But my point is that the idea 
that certain modeling techniques are internal, and therefore more 
virtuous somehow, is being used to validate what amounts to prejudice 
against other creative paths, which are equally supported by the 
software.  Also, it seems to me you explored the "external" pole of your 
axis with more assurance than you did the "internal" pole.  What would 
it take to make a picture with a very extreme definition of "internal", 
and would it really amount to virtue?  Also a splinter issue here is 
raytracer support for using empirically collected
data.  If a photo is used to produce a texture map, this is univerally 
deplored.  But if satellite data is used to generate a model of the 
earth's surface, maybe it's not so bad?  They look like the same thing 
to me.