Renderdog,
Many, many thanks for the comments.  Most of the areas that you address are
from my postings.  I'd like to try and add what was in my mind when I added
them ...

"Renderdog" <slo### [at] hiwaaynet> wrote in message
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> A few examples of what I'm referring to...
>
> On the materials page it is suggested that materials be
> demonstrated on some "basic shapes." But they are
> provided as a Moray .MDL file. Moray is a Windows
> only program.

I take the point 110%.  This would be a good project to build the equivalent
POV-Ray .pov file.  When I posted the entry, I didn't take the time to add
the .pov file to the page.  And this is where Wiki becomes great.  I'd
encourage you to add a comment line to the page (at the bottom, in Italics
with your name) as to what you would like to see changed or added to a page.
Then when *anyone* comes along, they can see the comment and attempt to
satisfy.  Wikis work by collaboration.  If I came across a page which had a
comment in it, I would ask myself, "What can I do to satisfy or progress the
comment?".   This will be true even if I didn't originally author the page.
Wikis grow over time with collected knowledge.

>
> The list of external links do not provide any information
> about what information the links provide. There are a
> lot of lists of links for POV-Ray sites already and they
> are not very useful.

Adding links to existing sites is the "low hanging fruit".  Adding the new
content takes time.  The Wiki has been around for 2 days.

>
> The same is true for the external tutorials. For example,
> "The Online POV-Ray Tutorial" is yet another site that
> has minimal useful information and also another site
> that was started with good intentions. It has not been
> updated since 1996:
> http://library.thinkquest.org/3285/index.html?tqskip1=1
>

I am a POV-Ray newbie, I found that link quite useful and read it from cover
to cover.  Maybe we need a thread in the Wiki as a path for newbiews to
follow.

> I hope I don't sound too negative with these comments.
> I understand the site is just in it's baby steps at this point.
> I do hope the Wiki site will prove useful, but there are
> many sites out there that have failed to provide anything
> beyond what is already available in the official documentation.
>
> What I'd like to see is a site whose primary purpose is
> to provide useful information, not just information.
>
>

Not negative at all.  I am very keen to see the Wiki succeed and it will be
a collaborative and inclusive effort.  By the nature of the Wiki that
anyone/everyone can change pages, there will never be a time when all
changes satisfy all people.  I believe that the Wiki needs a push to get
started and that is why I devoted hours yesterday to scouring for content
and adding what I could.  I tried to make it structured as best I could.

Looking forward to working with you my friend.

Neil

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