Txemi Jendrix <tji### [at] euskalnetnet> wrote in message
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> First of all, thanks to all for your input.
> I think I should explain my point of view, the following
> is only my opinion and maybe is a wrong opinion, decide
> by yourself:
>
> IRTC is a nice contest (or it was), but this round shows
> a dangerous movement that can ruin the competition.
> Because this is a competition, isn't it?.
> I mean, at least you expect a little of justice.
> If I enter my image and get a 35th position and
> someone sends one image with ladybugs and
> stairs and get the 16th position, my conclusion
> is that something is going wrong for me. (I don't
> want to offend anybody, but if someone can
> explain me this, I would like to hear about it).

I agree that this round showed up some negative aspects in the voting. I was
pretty blown away when I saw the tabulated scores, but I was willing to
believe that they were just a more-extreme-than-usual variation which the
variety of entries says was likely.

But after I had time to read all the comments I was pissed. In past rounds
there is usually some correlation between the score and the number and
caliber of the comments. High scoring images get a lot of comments, and
those comments tend to be very emphatic and positive. Low scoring images
tend to get less comments, and the comments are usually not negative, but
more passively worded. So when I see an image garner 15 comments out of only
28 voters, and those comments are almost all emphatically positive and the
image ends up 11th place, there is something wrong. And that one wasn't the
only one, there were several where the scoring was just way out of whack.

And yes, it is a competition, so yes the scores should mean something,
regardless of whether you are trying to win or not. That's what a
competition is, you may not go for the win, but you are going for a score,
so it leaves a bad feeling when the scoring is bad.   I enter mainly because
having a topic makes me create things that I otherwise would probably never
create, and I don't worry about winning (good thing, since I've never
won...) but I do like to think my scores mean something, if nothing else
than to compare to my earliest scores to see if I've gotten any better, but
even that is meaningless if I feel the scoring is meaningless.

So I don't think your opinion is wrong, besides, its yours and you are
entitled to it. But I do think (hope) that you are wrong as far as it being
a movement. The scoring is not usually like this, I think that it is just a
temporary detour. The IRTC is usually a positive experience, largely because
of artists like yourself who share their artistic perspectives and
experience, and their comments and knowledge.  And the scoring isn't
everything. I know that in the time I've been entering, my own images have
improved from the feedback, and often the best feedback has come with not so
good scores.  You should do what your feelings tell you to do, but I hope
you will remember all the good rounds, and the good images and positive
comments, and not let them be buried by one bad round.  And my best wishes,
whatever you decide.


> Hoping I haven't started a flame war...

Well, if there is a war, I won't blame it on you.

This is my last rant on the subject, I've said what I think and that was
really more than I started to, but I've had 2 shots of Corazon Anejo now, so
I'm feeling better.

RG - another day, another shot and I'll be ok.

P.S. Ok, 1 rant addendum...  I do not think any of the top 3 were bad, they
are all fine images, I just feel that there were better, and that I find it
odd that so many excellent images received such poor scores.

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