Hugo Asm wrote:

> Andreas Kreisig wrote:
>> you don't have to spend lots of bucks for a commercial 3D
>> application to get good results. But you have to learn to use two
>> rather complicated applications, this may be a small disadvantage.
> 
> I couldn't stand for this comment.  :o)  Isn't all the commercial
> applications complicated as well?

Yes of course. What I wanted to point out is that you have to learn *two* 
programs instead of only one when you buy a commercial, expensive and 
allmost full-featured 3d software. I think it's never (and it probably will 
never be) easy to create something in three dimensions.

> I throw them away the minute I see their interface.

To build an interface for such a complex software is allways a compromise 
between usability and design. Some GUIs are better, some are worse.

> But I'm biased towards scripting anyway, because I started programming a 
> long time ago.

This is of course a good supposition to work with SDL.

> I find POV-Ray to be excellent also
> for newbies because you don't actually SEE the possibilities of the
> program,

And you don't actually SEE what you're doing. This kind of abstraction may 
cause problems, at least for me :)

I'm a Linux user for a long time now and a view years ago I had an endless 
discussion with a Linux freak who only use the console for nearly all of 
his work while I rather use a Desktop for my daily work. He even said that 
it's more easy for a secretary to learn Tex (a script based 'word 
processor') than to learn MS Word or something similar. I mentioned that in 
the case that you're using a GRAPHICAL user interface, you have an 
additional 'channel' to learn: visibility. This is a fact, proofed by 
scientists who are dealing with learning theory.

> Commercial applications seems more automated, in some cases, and that can
> be a great thing. But I can automate a great deal of things in POV-Ray
> too.

There are some more reason why I prefer to use a modeler (not necessarily a 
commercial one), but I don't want to start this topic again ...:) Everybody 
should feel free to use what he/she wants.

Regards,
Andreas

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