"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> schreef in bericht
news:3b440651@news.povray.org...
> I have to support both Gilles and Norbert - when I first started using Pov
I
> refused to use anything but CSG - but like Gilles and Norbert quickly
> realised I would have to learn to model and use meshes and image maps  if
I
> was going to achieve my artistic aims - for me the art comes first and
I'll
> use any methodology to get there.
>
> Mick

I can respect that, and like I said before, I use modellers myself, so I
don't really have anything against them.  And even the use of other people's
models (or in my case macros and textures) is acceptable, as long as you do
the biggest part of the image yourself.  But consider this: someone wants to
make a scene of his desk, with a computer (monitor, mouse and keyboard), a
pencil, a piece of paper, and a cup.  First he fires up rhino to create the
pencil and the cup.  Then he starts to search the web to find a model of a
mouse, keyboard and monitor.  He scans in a piece of paper, and uses it as
an image map on a plane.  Then he imports everything in 3ds max, creates the
textures, moves the models around a bit until it looks good, adds a few

he has a finished image.  This whole process can be done in half an hour.
Where is the fun in that?  Or the rightful pride in knowing you acomplished
something special?
An example for the other side is your own warm_up.jpg, Norbert.  Ok, so the
grass is not your own model, but I have no problem whatsoever with that,
since it is obvious you put more than enough time and effort in the rest of
the image, and like I said, it is perfectly ok to use modellers for complex
models.  Artists like you is not who I wanted to complain about in this
message thread.  Instead, I wanted to accuse the people who sit down in
front of their computer for half a day, and at the end think they have a
valid entry for the irtc.  IMO the irtc is about showing what a computer can
do when pushed to the limits, and not that a computer can make images in a
matter of minutes.

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