Hi!
I thought I would throw one more log on the fire. That being the final image
itself (whatever form it takes) and its download time for a site. An
animated banner or logo may look cool, but if it takes to long to download
then visitors will become ticked that the page is taking to long to donwload
and they will move on to some place else on the Net. Not a good idea for the
site or the POV community. Although the buzz on high speed connections are
all over the net, TV, and print. The truth is most people out there still
connect to the net using an analog modem with a sad 28.8k/sec connection.
speed myself included... :(
File size is still important and it should be considered.

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C.J. - Pov User.
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Henry <htp### [at] maccom> wrote in message
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> <ffj### [at] club-internetfr> wrote:
>
> > I may be wrong, but I think that the logo is meant to be displayed
> > (as a banner or anything else) for the homepage and the icon to
> > start POV (in window$ case).
>
> A version of a logo could (and probably would) be reduced in size and
> quality to be used as a desktop icon for the povray application, but
> that's _not_ what the primary purpose of a logo is.  Logos are for
> advertising, and you hardly need to advertise a product to someone who
> has already downloaded it, uncompressed it, and installed it on their
> hard drive.
>
> That's one of the problems with this whole "competition" - there is one
> camp of people who want the name "povray" (however you decide to spell
> it) in the logo itself.  They don't seem to realise that when you crunch
> an image down to 32x32 pixels, letters are nothing more than a blur.
>
> That leaves you with two options:  Either you drop the name from the
> logo, or you simply stylise the name and forget about any cool sort of
> image to go along with it.  You can't fit both in 32x32.
>
> Regardless, given that we're not a company with product to sell to
> consumers, the _only_ use we have for a logo at all is to recruit others
> into the povray community.  And the only _feasible_ way of doing that is
> by including the logo on the final art.
>
> Now, we all know how pedantic we are about our own works, and none of us
> want to put some silly little logo onto our traces if it's going to
> stand out like a sore thumb and spoil the whole thing.  That's why it's
> pointless talking about colour schemes - blue, pink, rainbow, who cares
> - none of them will ever blend in with anyone's trace, and hence the
> logo will never get included.
>
> Banners for websites are completely different to logos.  Banners can be
> huge (compared to logos), you've got plenty of space for images and
> text, and even animations, if you want.
>
> And that's the _main_ problem with this whole "competition" - there
> seems to be a pervasive and narrow mindset that we must only have _one_
> logo which should be used for _everything_.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, that's just plain silly.  You don't use hammers
> to bash in screws, you don't race four-wheel drives in Formula 1, and
> you don't start fires by rubbing sticks together - you should use the
> right tools for the right job.
>
> That means if we want a banner that can be displayed on web pages, then
> we design the best banner we can; if we want an icon for the povray
> application, then we design the best icon we can, and if we want a
> watermark/imprint to go on people's finished traces, then we design the
> best watermark/imprint we can.  A single logo can and will _NEVER_ do
> all three tasks well.
>
> And if all this time is being spent on designing a logo that, regardless
> of how good it is, will only ever do a mediocre job at everything, then
> what's the point?
>
> The right tools for the right job - that's all I'm saying.
>
> Henry.

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