Robert J Becraft wrote:
> My observations:
> 
> 1) One of the "problems" is that people are too nice to each other when
> voting.

tend to agree.
 
> If a picture is off-topic, it should get a 1.

tend to agree, the off-topic tendency is becoming very annoying from
month to month, and should be marked.
> 
> If a picture is poorly composed, it should get a 1.

outside off-topic images, I never give less than 8; giving lower points
has no real sense... (we're not in shool, everyone is allowed to
participate
next time); outside the top-20 images, comments become the important
thing,
and point doesn't matter.

> If a picture is a Bryce Render with 3 objects in it, it should get a 1.

I didn't know that you could make a scene with as much as 3 objects in
Bryce ;)
 
> If a picture is so dark you can't see anything in it, it should get a 1.

I turn up brightness instead...  Do you know that some "computers"
produces
images with a gamma that gives very dark results on a PC screen.
 
> If a picture is so on-topic it knocks your socks off, it should get a 20.

But then, how do you make a difference between the images that are very 
on-topic, and those who bring an amazing (but still very on-topic) twist
on the subject ?
 
> If a picture is so well composed you say "wow", it should get a 20.

see remark above.
 
> If a picture is realistic, even of imaginary objects, it should get a 20.

...
 
> Basically, everyone voting in the range of 5-15 for pictures is saying
> nothing about the pictures they are voting for.  The average scores tend to
> center around the 9-12 point range.  

I tend to vote in the results range... never under 8 (unless off-topic),
and rarely above 15.  this give me margin for exceptional images...
Having been in art school (or similar) for some time, I don't remember
many works that were given more than 75%

>The really lousy pictures tend to get
> about the same scores as the really good pictures.

If it was true, the winners would be often lousy pictures.  This
is not the case.
 
> I vote in two passes.  The first vote is for good or bad, basically
> eliminating all the pictures that either didn't impress me, or that simply
> were off topic.  The ones that do impress me get some vote based on how well
> they impress me.

Did you had a second pass this time ? ;)
 
 
> I've found this technique gets rid of the pictures that are really lousy to
> begin with and allows me to focus in on the good pictures for a better study
> and more accurate vote.  I've taken what used to take me a week to do and
> shortened it down to about 3-4 hours.

Commenting is important, not voting.

> 3)  Comments cannot be retracted once posted.  While not a flaw in the
> voting process, people must be careful in what they post.  Constructive
> critism about the picture is good feedback and should be taken as such.
> Judges should keep away from making statements that are not in that vein.

... and I'll add that "nice image" is not a very helpful comment to
someone
that made a fair image.
 
Fabien.

Post a reply to this message