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24 Dec 2024 21:33:14 EST (-0500)
  Re: Regarding Vote  
From: Jeff Lee
Date: 9 Mar 1999 16:23:24
Message: <36e5914c.0@news.povray.org>
"Marjorie Graterol" <pgr### [at] emailmsncom> wrote:
> Jeff Lee<SHI### [at] GATENET wrote in message <36e4c3a3.0@news.povray.org>...
>
>> Considering that photorealism is *the* strong point of a raytracer, it's
>> not likely to be a trend that will disappear soon.
>
> Maybe you are right. But raytracing is entering into another world, called
> art.

I hope I am misinterpreting this -- it sounds like you are saying that
photorealism cannot be Art (if you *are* saying that, then I would have
to disagree strenuously).


> In Art, "soon" as a word does not have meaning, because of the very
> nature of the makers, this is, humans.

That is true.  But I wonder if, centuries from now, the abstract and
Dadaist works of the twentieth century will be held in as high regard as
the works of da Vinci or Rembrandt.  My personal opinion is that
*talented* artists, like Dali, will achieve that kind of lasting
appreciation, but the people who only seem capable of drawing a single
white line on a black canvas and calling it "art" will fade into
obscurity.


> This has taught me to recognize the freedom of choice anybody is entitled
> to, including me. :)

Of course; it works both ways.  I'm perfectly willing to let someone
call a toilet or a telephone a work of art -- as long as they allow me
the right to say it takes no artistic talent to do so.  And, of course,
then they're free to make the usual defensive statement that I just
don't "get it", to which I will happily agree.  :-)


> I would say that, rethinking the whole term, it would be good -for me- to
> call it 'cycle' instead. We are still used to think in the space in a XV
> century conception.

Well, *I* am, at least -- just like I think of music in terms of
classical harmonic structures.  Modern artists and musicians may reject
these old-fashioned "limits" or "burdens", but my personal sense of
aesthetics prefers them over the chaotic (and often ugly) artistic and
musical forms of the twentieth century.

As to fifteenth-century conceptions of space, it was then that the
concepts of perspective and realism really came into flower in the
Western art world.  The way I see it, this is the spatial concept which
is best represented by the raytracer, since it works by the mathematical
principles which lie behind perspective drawing.


> those that have had the courage to make their own choices, no matter
> what the world thinks.

And yet, now that contemporary art has departed from photorealism, is it
not a valid artistic choice to choose realism, no matter what the art
world thinks?  ;-)



-- 
Jeff Lee         shi### [at] gatenet         http://www.gate.net/~shipbrk/


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