Greg M. Johnson <"gregj;-)56590"@aol.c;-)om> wrote in message
<36dc9466.0@news.povray.org>...
>This ain't high diving.
>
>Any ol' fool can throw a bunch of sloppy CSG and isosurface patches and
fail
>miserably for technical merit in my book.  I think that Annig's earlier
post
>talked about "appropriate use" of technology.   I have rated images low for
>being an obtuse showcasing of a raytracing program's capability.


I am answering this because I saw one of my post  attached to this one, and
I like the topic.

I strongly agree with Annig's personal evaluation scale regarding topics or
aspects to review.  I was trying to be objective assigning points and/or
qualifications. To this regard, I  keep my word to the last answer in the
same thread, which obviuosly has not been referenced.

>I found that detail offensive to its artistry: who'd want
>that entry hanging on a wall?  It was offensive to technical merit: it
showed
>careless use of a canned model.

 I won't ever discuss any judgement regarding technical merit about using
raytracing. It is very simple, I am not a programmer, nor mathematician.
However, I do not have to be one of them to raytrace and, by the same token,
nobody has to be an artist to raytrace.  I have realized that the more I
raytrace -or try to- the more I learn. This said, It's matter of time -in
appreciation, rendering, analysis, trial-and-error renderings and
experimentation - that I can differenciate and/or aprehend more technical
subtleties

> It was offensive to concept:  WHY ON EARTH
>would a group of cavemen be cloned and bald?  What kind of message is the
author
>trying to convey:  time travel? loss of identity in cults?
>

The magic word here is art, which means primarily freedom.  Unfortunately,
the downside of art is precisely the opinion of the viewer, which cannot
affect the artist nor the artwork itself. It is a viewer's  point of view.
In the same way Duchamp was dumped from a museum when he put a toilette in
the middle (go now and ask for the price of that toilette); in the same way
Picasso was rejected when he stopped painting "in the right way" ; in the
same way the collage technique is now  "a state of the art " to make
portraits (after being someting confined to entertain kids in rainy days)..
and so on., everybody is entitled to depict, represent or figure out
everything is a free way.  Raytracing has become a superb tool to do many,
many things. After all, this is 1999.
I also realize that raytracing is *not* photorealism. This is a trend, and
slowly -and because this is the same cycle repeating when photography
finally took the "reality burden" from painting- raytracing will evolve more
and more.

A also realize the importance of writing the description in IRTC, as odd as
it appears.  To me, it is aimed at jurors, not to explain *why* I did
something. It is to enlighten  one's mind.  I was very upset first, when I
sent my second entry -elements-, which was about the Periodic Table of
Elements. When I read the comments, I sadly agreed with those that
encouraged me to 'write about'. , it was evident that not many people knew
what a periodic table is.  This is a learning process, where we all learn,
or more accurately and not to offend anybody, where I am very proud of being
learning.


Marjorie Graterol

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