Ken wrote in message <36A35560.EA5AC0B4@pacbell.net>...
>Perhaps it is too vauge but your proposed method of evaluation by points
>is doomed to failure (maybe). There are times that technical can achieve
>high points without having to use every feature in the program. The
technical
>isssue is related, quite closely, to the other point groups, theme and
composition.


I don't agree with that because the whole constest is then doomed. It is
very easy to convert 100's to 20. What I am asking for is a way to be
objective. This, again, is not that easy but can be done and it is done in
every work. The simplest way is to say yes or not, e.g, You drive or not,
otherwise you crash (in conditions to drive a car) period. The other way is
to
evaluate how yo do that, assuming of course you passed the first one.  You
can list all the aspects you want and assign any value. The next step is
prioritizing, what goes first. e.g, I cannot drive if I cannot turn the
engine on. Dumb? Not. It happens.
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>For a good example look in the povray.binaries.images group at
>the image "You know you have been...". This image is simplicity
>in itself but the message it conveys and the artistry used to convey
>that message are exemplary. In the right round I would give it fairly
>high points in all categories just because it comes together so well.

I do not have any problem with images themselves., in fact,  I usually
under-evaluate them. In the same way it is very easy for you to establish
the technical things and how they go together., in the same way I "look at"
images.  And I was not asking for your help in this aspect., just because I
know the field.

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>If you want a grading of which povray features are most likely to be
>used by a beginner and which by the more advanced user the I will
>try to make a simple, prioritized, list for you. Even that will be a
>subjective list because what may be difficult for me may be a simple
>thing to someone else. I could only offer it as an opinionated bias.


I was asking for those points because it is irresponsible for me to evaluate
something I do not know enough., but this is something that happens the
other way around, simply put, I am not a programmer and you are not and
artist and viceversa.

And yes, I have many options:

1- Enter in the contest and not judging  -letting others that really know to
evaluate my work -
2- Ask for categories inside the contest, beginner, advanced, out of this
world, etc.
3- Be very aware of the nature of judges, and what they evaluate.
4- Do my homework without asking for help, stop whinning and go ahead no
matter what.

Obviuosly, 4.
Thanks

Marjorie Graterol



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