I won't argue with your view of the world. But my definition of a plane,
that I got from my algebra classes is that it has no 3D definition, it
is 2D, and therefor shouldn't have inside or outside. It took some time
before I oculd understand why and how the thing had it in pov. now I
know(csg and so on.) but before that. Why the HECK does it think I'm
INSIDE it, it HAS no inside, it CAN'T, it's 2D !!! *smile*
Welcome to the world of pov.

As your thoughts of the other things, i'll meditate on it :-)
//Spider

Nieminen Mika wrote:
> 
> Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote:
> : So THAT's why. I thought it was enough to have it hollow.
> : does the invere give me any other advantages except that the infinite
> : goes away?
> 
>   I think it's more a conceptual think. I personally prefer to look at objects
> from _outside_. Although povray only models surfaces I like to think about
> (non-transparent) objects as solid. If I put the camera inside an object then
> it conflicts against how I imagine the world since it should be solid but it
> isn't. So I personally don't feel comfortable if I put the camera inside
> a sphere which should be solid. That's why I always make sky spheres, walls,
> etc, which 'inside' part is away from the camera (ie. the camera is outside
> the object). That way I'm also always sure that I'm really looking at the
> outer surface of the wall so pigments, normals, etc will work as expected.
>   This is even more important if I use things like fog. What I think is:
> "There is a wall there; a wall is solid material and I'm looking it from
> outside; I'm not inside the wall but outside; so the fog will be seen outside
> the wall (where I am) but not inside (so if the wall was transparent, there
> should not be fog inside there)".
>   Many people use walls (ie. planes) the wrong way, ie. with the camera inside
> the wall instead of outside and then just define the wall as hollow so that
> fog etc will work. This conflicts entirely with my notion of the 3D world I
> am modelling. I would feel very uncomfortable at the wrong side of walls...
> 
> --
> main(i){char*_="BdsyFBThhHFBThhHFRz]NFTITQF|DJIFHQhhF";while(i=
> *_++)for(;i>1;printf("%s",i-70?i&1?"[]":" ":(i=0,"\n")),i/=2);} /*- Warp. -*/

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