Nice atmosphere in here. I'm toasting marshmallows on it.
BTW. Is this in HTML? I've never looked/cared.

    Graham.

Nieminen Mika wrote:

>   Evidently you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
>   Firstly, you have the typical attitude of a windows nerd.
>   If you say to a windows nerd "a command line shell is very handy" what he
> actually reads is "GUIs suck, the command line is much better than any GUI
> in everything and everyone should get rid of all graphic interfaces and use
> only text-based command line interpreters".
>   If you say to a windows nerd "you should also take into consideration
> text-based html browsers when you make a html web page" what he actually
> reads is "you have to include only text in your pages, no pictures, no
> frames, not even colors, no any other thing but only text".
>   If you say to windows nerd "UNIX is a very good operating system" they
> only see an antisocial geek sitting in a dark corner using a VT100-type
> text terminal typing cryptical commands and using programs from the early
> 60's (everything in text mode, of course).
>   An of course, if you say to a windows nerd "stop sending HTML to the news"
> what they read is "stop using netscape".
>   As a typical windows nerd, you even talked about mIRC as if it was the
> only IRC-client out there.
>   As a typical windows nerd, you confuse program development with standards
> development. You think that if program X (for windows, of course) has a new
> feature, that's the new standard and everyone should change to that.
>   As a typical windows nerd, you suppose that people who is not using the
> same programs as you are not using the latest versions and state-of-art
> programs.
>   As a typical windows nerd, you are completely unable to understand that
> the only thing you have to do to stop sending html is to uncheck one option
> in netscape and that this will not affect news reading in any way.
>   As a typical windows nerd you suppose that everyone can and like to use
> netscape as a news reader. It's true that almost everybody can use it, but
> it isn't true that everyobdy likes it.
>   Netscape takes a lot of resources (it really is a memory and cpu hog), it
> takes a very long time to start an its news reader is in some aspects very
> limited. Some people want to control in a more precise way what articles
> they want to read and in which way.
>   "Upgrading", as you call it, from an efficient real news reader to
> netscape would make life a pain to those people. They will loose lots of
> features they were using. It would actually be a downgrade.
>   The fact that you can send html documents to the news with netscape doesn't
> make it a standard. If I started to send eg. tex-documents or postscript
> documents, who would read that? The fact that you can do something doesn't
> mean that everyone is doing the same thing and even less that it's a
> standard.
>
>   And all the problem is that one checkbox which these windows nerds are
> completely unable to uncheck.
>   Luckily enough those windows nerds constitute a very little percent of
> the net users (at least here).
>
> : PS: I posted this in plain text format for a reason.. so you wouldn't skip
> : it just because it's html.
>
>   Why should you send anything in html here? I can't think of any reason.
>   Ah... But windows nerds don't need reasons.
>
> --
> main(i){char*_="BdsyFBThhHFBThhHFRz]NFTITQF|DJIFHQhhF";while(i=
> *_++)for(;i>1;printf("%s",i-70?i&1?"[]":" ":(i=0,"\n")),i/=2);} /*- Warp. -*/

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