I am sure I read that poser hair is not usable with Povray because it
just outputs guide hairs. Well I have had a thought or two and I would
like to experiment but as I've just started to use Poser 5 I cannot
design straight hair. 
Can anyone give me some pointers, please?


Regards
        Stephen

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"Stephen McAvoy" <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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> I am sure I read that poser hair is not usable with Povray because it
> just outputs guide hairs.

The dynamic hair that comes with P-5 doesn't work well with POV-Ray, but
I've had good luck with the hair from Mr. Maya's website.  Possible that
anything that isn't dynamic hair might work well.

Greybeard

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> I am sure I read that poser hair is not usable with Povray because it
> just outputs guide hairs. Well I have had a thought or two and I would
> like to experiment but as I've just started to use Poser 5 I cannot
> design straight hair.
> Can anyone give me some pointers, please?

Do you mean sculpting straight-looking dynamic hair or designing regular,
mesh-based, non dynamic hair ?

G.

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:37:41 -0500, "GreyBeard"
<r.b### [at] sbcglobalnet> wrote:

>I've had good luck with the hair from Mr. Maya's website.  Possible that
>anything that isn't dynamic hair might work well.
I could not find his site. I have used hair by Mr Kozaburo to good
effect especially when combined with Masa's PAE 
http://www.eurus.dti.ne.jp/~masasi/PROGRAM/indexE.html

Hair (and breast) movement demos below
http://www.eurus.dti.ne.jp/~masasi/PROGRAM/PAE/Pae2.mpg
http://www.eurus.dti.ne.jp/~masasi/PROGRAM/PAE/JV.mpg


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        Stephen

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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:13:30 +0200, "Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr>
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>Do you mean sculpting straight-looking dynamic hair or designing regular,
>mesh-based, non dynamic hair ?
Yes, sculpting straight-looking dynamic hair. Like a Mary Quant or a
bop. Showing my age I know :-)

Regards
        Stephen

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It's not really that hard - you just go into the hair room and change the 
parameters to have no gravity.

Take a look at the mohawk in the Poser Folder for a good general straight 
hair.

Now with cloth, on the other hand, it turns out you cannot turn gravity off 
(irritating).

I've done several spike type hair cuts that don't look too bad, although the 
effect when moving is a bit weird (I think there's too much inertia or 
something).

             == John ==

"Stephen McAvoy" <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:13:30 +0200, "Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr>
> wrote:
>
>>Do you mean sculpting straight-looking dynamic hair or designing regular,
>>mesh-based, non dynamic hair ?
> Yes, sculpting straight-looking dynamic hair. Like a Mary Quant or a
> bop. Showing my age I know :-)
>
> Regards
>        Stephen

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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:38:49 -0800, "John D. Gwinner"
<joh### [at] cornelledu> wrote:

>It's not really that hard - you just go into the hair room and change the 
>parameters to have no gravity.
>
>Take a look at the mohawk in the Poser Folder for a good general straight 
>hair.
>
>Now with cloth, on the other hand, it turns out you cannot turn gravity off 
>(irritating).
>
>I've done several spike type hair cuts that don't look too bad, although the 
>effect when moving is a bit weird (I think there's too much inertia or 
>something).
>
>             == John ==
Thanks John,
Not quite the look I had in mind. 
Thinks; Madonna and child with Mohawk? 
Yes you might just be onto something there :-)
Seriously I phrased the question poorly, again thanks for thinking
about it. I wanted hair that hangs straight down.


Regards
        Stephen

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> Thinks; Madonna and child with Mohawk?
> Yes you might just be onto something there :-)

*lol*

> Seriously I phrased the question poorly, again thanks for thinking
> about it. I wanted hair that hangs straight down.

Or I misinterpreted - for hair that hangs straight down, I think you just 
add some more gravity to the sim and make sure you don't add any clumpyness. 
I was messing around with a straighed haired woman with about four foot 
hairs that didn't look too bad, once the hair 'draped' down.  You have to 
give the sim some time.

But it *is* a sim, so the hair starts out 'straight out' and then falls 
down, per the gravity effect.  You can fiddle with the initial position, but 
given that the hair grows in the direction of the normals, gravity works 
better than the 'down' or 'back' controls because each normal is a bit 
different.  (been a while since I was in the hair room, I hope I got the 
names right).

My real problem is that there is no good way to export the hair to POVRay 
currently, that I know of, so I didn't do too much more messing with it.

        == John ==

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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 18:44:51 -0800, "John D. Gwinner"
<joh### [at] cornelledu> wrote:

>My real problem is that there is no good way to export the hair to POVRay 
>currently, that I know of, so I didn't do too much more messing with it.

Thanks John,
	Yes that is the problem. I'm thinking of going back to Poser 4
as I only use the models as meshes in PovRay. I did notice that if you
export the hair as 3DS, PoseRay will turn them into a mesh. I had
thought that that might be a solution


Regards
        Stephen

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> I did notice that if you
> export the hair as 3DS, PoseRay will turn them into a mesh. I had
> thought that that might be a solution

Oh, interesting - I don't have a way to import .3ds I don't think, but if it 
was a multi frame export, maybe dynamic hair would stand a sporting chance 
...

        == John ==

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