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From: Warp
Subject: Re: New (Experimental) Index Page
Date: 8 Apr 2008 20:04:04
Message: <47fc07f4@news.povray.org>
Chris B <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
> I've added an option to display both a short textual description and the 
> graphics.

  Small problem, though:
http://warp.povusers.org/snaps/objectcollection.png

> > The minuscule images on the right side of the thumbnail are not
> > intuitive and don't really stand out as "you can see more information
> > here".

> I'm running on 1024x768 and they don't look 'very' small on my screen. Are 
> you running on a higher resolution?

  1600x1200.

> Are the meanings of the icons clear (now that you can see them)?

  I suppose they are ok, although in the longer version there could be
textual links as well, IMO.

> Is it apparent that hovering over the icons brings up the Alt text to 
> explain their function, or should I add some sort of hint at the top of the 
> screen?

  I have never been so good at UI and web design. I can report problems,
but I don't necessarily have good ideas for solutions. :)

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: New (Experimental) Index Page
Date: 8 Apr 2008 21:22:22
Message: <47fc1a4e@news.povray.org>
Warp escribió:
>   I have never been so good at UI and web design. I can report problems,
> but I don't necessarily have good ideas for solutions. :)

Don't worry, that's pretty normal :)


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From: Charles C
Subject: Re: New (Experimental) Index Page
Date: 9 Apr 2008 02:14:05
Message: <47fc5ead@news.povray.org>
Chris,

I'm liking the ability to see more entries all at once!  Seeing all the 
categories on the left is great too.  Selecting 50% scaling does a nice 
job on Firefox in Windows. (Note, I'm also at 1024x768).  I do find the 
small icons intuitive - i for information, a magnifier for a larger view 
and a  downward pointing arrow for download all seem pretty standard to 
me.

Right now clicking on the thumbnail seems to do the same thing as one of 
the icons - specifically the download button.  Minor changes I think 
might be nice would be to change the function of the "i" icon to bring 
up a separate smaller pop-up window (did I say that?) with the full size 
thumbnail and description and another download link.  That and maybe 
change the function of clicking on the original thumbnail to bringing up 
something like the full size image in the same window captioned with the 
description and another download link.  This way everything you click 
gets a slightly different result to fit more tastes.

I do get the over-written text if I list with text, similar to Warp's 
screenshot.

Charles


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: New (Experimental) Index Page
Date: 9 Apr 2008 08:12:29
Message: <47fcb2ad$1@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
news:47fc07f4@news.povray.org...
> Chris B <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
>> I've added an option to display both a short textual description and the
>> graphics.
>
>  Small problem, though:
> http://warp.povusers.org/snaps/objectcollection.png

Ah whoops. I hadn't scrolled down enough in the Firefox version to notice 
that and IE handled it ok. I've fixed that so it should be ok in both now.

>> I'm running on 1024x768. Are
>> you running on a higher resolution?
>
>  1600x1200.

ok now that resolution is beyond what I can test :-)
Is the text showing up ok at that resolution? I have used a small font.

>
>> Are the meanings of the icons clear (now that you can see them)?
>
>  I suppose they are ok, although in the longer version there could be
> textual links as well, IMO.
>

ok. I've added textual links to the 'Images and Text' mode.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: New (Experimental) Index Page
Date: 9 Apr 2008 08:12:34
Message: <47fcb2b2$1@news.povray.org>
"Charles C" <"nospam a nospam.com"> wrote in message 
news:47fc5ead@news.povray.org...
> Chris,
>
> I'm liking the ability to see more entries all at once!  Seeing all the 
> categories on the left is great too.  Selecting 50% scaling does a nice 
> job on Firefox in Windows. (Note, I'm also at 1024x768).  I do find the 
> small icons intuitive - i for information, a magnifier for a larger view 
> and a  downward pointing arrow for download all seem pretty standard to 
> me.
>

ok. Thanks for the feedback.

> Right now clicking on the thumbnail seems to do the same thing as one of 
> the icons - specifically the download button.  Minor changes I think might 
> be nice would be to change the function of the "i" icon to bring up a 
> separate smaller pop-up window (did I say that?) with the full size 
> thumbnail and description and another download link.

At the moment it brings up that information by specifying a 'target', so IE 
puts it into a separate window and Firefox opens it in a new tab (can anyone 
tell me what Opera etc. does with it). Do you think it would be better to 
show a sort of overlay on the same page? This may be possible with some CSS 
jiggery pockery rather than resorting to JavaScript (I'm trying to make this 
view JavaScript-free).

> That and maybe change the function of clicking on the original thumbnail 
> to bringing up something like the full size image in the same window 
> captioned with the description and another download link.  This way 
> everything you click gets a slightly different result to fit more tastes.

I may be able to use CSS to bring up an overlay when the mouse pointer is 
hovered over a thumbnail, but without JavaScript it might be difficult to 
control the position so that it stays in the visible part of the screen. I'm 
also not sure how well other (e.g older) browsers and other platforms handle 
that sort of thing. I'll dig into the manuals.

> I do get the over-written text if I list with text, similar to Warp's 
> screenshot.

ok. I think I've nailed that one now if you'd like to double check that for 
me.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: New (Experimental) Index Page
Date: 9 Apr 2008 08:48:22
Message: <47fcbb14@news.povray.org>
Chris B <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
> Is the text showing up ok at that resolution? I have used a small font.

  The cells are now scaling according to the text (even if text size is
increased by the browser), so it works a lot better now.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: New (Experimental) Index Page
Date: 9 Apr 2008 08:50:53
Message: <47fcbbab@news.povray.org>
Btw, in the 'image and text' mode the "more info" link simply links
to the exact same 'image and text' (but without anything else).

  Wouldn't it be better if it linked to the (possible) html file submitted
alongside the object, as in the normal index page?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: New (Experimental) Index Page
Date: 9 Apr 2008 09:22:00
Message: <47fcc2f8@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
news:47fcbbab@news.povray.org...
>  Btw, in the 'image and text' mode the "more info" link simply links
> to the exact same 'image and text' (but without anything else).
>
>  Wouldn't it be better if it linked to the (possible) html file submitted
> alongside the object, as in the normal index page?

Yes. I think that is better. It now links to the html file contributed with 
the object if one exists. Otherwise it displays the standard page like 
before.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: New (Experimental) Index Page
Date: 9 Apr 2008 10:34:33
Message: <47fcd3f9@news.povray.org>
"Chris B" <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote in message 
news:47fbff20@news.povray.org...
>
> "Mike the Elder" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message
>> How would you feel about
>> adding an "Unselect All" button?

> I've added a "Clear Selected Categories" link.

It's now a button.

Regards,
Chris B.


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From: SharkD
Subject: Re: New (Experimental) Index Page
Date: 22 Jun 2008 03:45:00
Message: <web.485e01e9133a8f91896db6a10@news.povray.org>
Will it be possible in the future to add an object to both the Area of Interest
and Content Type categories?

Also, will it be possible to modify an existing entry without having to fill out
all the fields and upload files from scatch? Sometimes you just want to fix a
typo, or update a file without changing its description.

-Mike


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