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In article <1gxft09.1n2d05f18jpulyN%yvo.s@gmx.net>,
yvo### [at] gmx net (Yvo Smellenbergh) wrote:
> Schwaighofer Clemens <gul### [at] gullevekorg> wrote:
>
> > has anyboday already tried to run Povray 3.6 in Tiger? I tried to start
> > it, but nothing happens at all.
> No problem running 3.6 Build 0197 on tiger 10.4.1.
> Always useful to try is to trash the preferences and try again. If it
> doesn't work either, you can always move the old preferences back.
hmm, I did a fresh install, double clicked on the POV-Ray Icon but it
just loaded the script editor, so I changed it to use the Application
Loader, but when I double click it, nothing happens.
Do I need some special libs installed? or set special paths in my
enviroment?
> >
> > I also tried MegaPOV and that starts fine.
> Of course ;-)
Well, after POV-Ray doesn't run, and doesn't show anything, I wasn't so
sure that it runs :)
lg, clemens
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Clemens Schwaighofer wrote:
>>No problem running 3.6 Build 0197 on tiger 10.4.1.
>>Always useful to try is to trash the preferences and try again. If it
>>doesn't work either, you can always move the old preferences back.
>
> hmm, I did a fresh install, double clicked on the POV-Ray Icon but it
> just loaded the script editor, so I changed it to use the Application
> Loader, but when I double click it, nothing happens.
What you say makes no sense at all assuming you are talking about the
official POV-Ray for Mac version. First of all, there is no installer.
Second, there is no way that you can change a Mac application "to use the
Application Loader" as there is no such thing as an "Application Loader",
whatever that is supposed to be.
So whatever you are doing does simply not make any sense! At least assuming
you are really talking about the official Mac version here...
Thorsten
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In article <gullevek-BFAE70.10023902062005@news.povray.org>,
gul### [at] gullevekorg says...
> In article <1gxft09.1n2d05f18jpulyN%yvo.s@gmx.net>,
> yvo### [at] gmxnet (Yvo Smellenbergh) wrote:
>
> > Schwaighofer Clemens <gul### [at] gullevekorg> wrote:
> >
> > > has anyboday already tried to run Povray 3.6 in Tiger? I tried to start
> > > it, but nothing happens at all.
> > No problem running 3.6 Build 0197 on tiger 10.4.1.
> > Always useful to try is to trash the preferences and try again. If it
> > doesn't work either, you can always move the old preferences back.
>
> hmm, I did a fresh install, double clicked on the POV-Ray Icon but it
> just loaded the script editor, so I changed it to use the Application
> Loader, but when I double click it, nothing happens.
>
I think you are confused. POVRay is not a modeller. It has a script
editing portion and a render engine that takes the script, parses it and
generates an image from it. The only graphical modelling interfaces,
which is what 'most' 3D apps have, are third party applications. I have
no idea which one is the best for the MAC though.
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void main () {
call functional_code()
else
call crash_windows();
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In article <429eaea6$1@news.povray.org>,
Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
> Clemens Schwaighofer wrote:
> >>No problem running 3.6 Build 0197 on tiger 10.4.1.
> >>Always useful to try is to trash the preferences and try again. If it
> >>doesn't work either, you can always move the old preferences back.
> >
> > hmm, I did a fresh install, double clicked on the POV-Ray Icon but it
> > just loaded the script editor, so I changed it to use the Application
> > Loader, but when I double click it, nothing happens.
>
> What you say makes no sense at all assuming you are talking about the
> official POV-Ray for Mac version. First of all, there is no installer.
> Second, there is no way that you can change a Mac application "to use the
> Application Loader" as there is no such thing as an "Application Loader",
> whatever that is supposed to be.
>
> So whatever you are doing does simply not make any sense! At least assuming
> you are really talking about the official Mac version here...
ctrl+click on the binary "POV-Ray Mac 3.6" and choose "open with".
Anyway, I know it is not an "application" where you write code, but I
tried to run it in the shell to get some output like I do in Linux.
Well, I have now MegaPov running, and from there I can render pictures.
I am sorry if I confuse people, but thats just, because I am confused. I
have no idea how I should start rendering picture with Pov Ray in Mac.
I couldn't find any quick help description for it.
lg, clemens
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In article <MPG.1d096ce859549e13989d72@news.povray.org>,
Patrick Elliott <sha### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> In article <gullevek-BFAE70.10023902062005@news.povray.org>,
> gul### [at] gullevekorg says...
> > In article <1gxft09.1n2d05f18jpulyN%yvo.s@gmx.net>,
> > yvo### [at] gmxnet (Yvo Smellenbergh) wrote:
> >
> > > Schwaighofer Clemens <gul### [at] gullevekorg> wrote:
> > >
> > > > has anyboday already tried to run Povray 3.6 in Tiger? I tried to start
> > > > it, but nothing happens at all.
> > > No problem running 3.6 Build 0197 on tiger 10.4.1.
> > > Always useful to try is to trash the preferences and try again. If it
> > > doesn't work either, you can always move the old preferences back.
> >
> > hmm, I did a fresh install, double clicked on the POV-Ray Icon but it
> > just loaded the script editor, so I changed it to use the Application
> > Loader, but when I double click it, nothing happens.
> >
> I think you are confused. POVRay is not a modeller. It has a script
> editing portion and a render engine that takes the script, parses it and
> generates an image from it. The only graphical modelling interfaces,
> which is what 'most' 3D apps have, are third party applications. I have
> no idea which one is the best for the MAC though.
I know, I know. My issues is, that I have no idea how to start rendering
something on Mac. Should I just drop a pov-ray text file on the app?
There is no "first steps for mac" readme.
So, can someone point me out how to use POV-ray in Mac?
lg, clemens
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Clemens Schwaighofer wrote:
>>Clemens Schwaighofer wrote:
>>>hmm, I did a fresh install, double clicked on the POV-Ray Icon but it
>>>just loaded the script editor, so I changed it to use the Application
>>>Loader, but when I double click it, nothing happens.
>
> ctrl+click on the binary "POV-Ray Mac 3.6" and choose "open with".
Something seems wrong here. The "open with" submenu shouldn't even
appear for applications. At least it doesn't here on Panther, I don't
know about Tiger.
> Anyway, I know it is not an "application" where you write code, but I
> tried to run it in the shell to get some output like I do in Linux.
You can't do that with the Mac version (well, you can start it from a
shell, but that's no different than doubleclicking it in the Finder). If
you want to do that, install the Unix version - compile from source, or
install a binary from a place like Fink (http://fink.sf.net/) (I think
they don't have 3.6 yet, though).
> I couldn't find any quick help description for it.
That's because there's supposed to be no need for it. If you open the
application, the basics should be obvious - there's a text editor, a
"Render" menu, etc. For more details, you can read chapter 1 "POV-Ray
for Mac OS" in the documentation that you can open from the "POV-Ray
Documentation in HTML" file. Obviously something is wrong with your copy
of POV-Ray or your computer.
When you say "it loaded the script editor", I assume you're not talking
about POV-Ray's scene editor (because that's what's supposed to open),
but about /Applications/AppleScript/Script Editor?
> My issues is, that I have no idea how to start rendering
> something on Mac. Should I just drop a pov-ray text file on the app?
That's one way to do it. That should open the file in POV-Ray's editor,
and you can then render it using the "Render" menu.
-Christian
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Clemens Schwaighofer <gul### [at] gullevekorg> wrote:
[...]
>
> I know, I know. My issues is, that I have no idea how to start rendering
> something on Mac. Should I just drop a pov-ray text file on the app?
Pov_Ray is just the same as MacMegaPOV, except that MacMegaPOV looks a
bit different.
If you say that you can use MacMegaPOV, then you should be able to run
POV_Ray as well.
You need to open a scene file (MacMegaPOV allows for selecting one
without opening).
Both versions look a bit different but they do the same.
> There is no "first steps for mac" readme.
> So, can someone point me out how to use POV-ray in Mac?
I suggest that you start from scratch:
Download the archive, expand the archive and mount the image, copy the
folder "POV-Ray 3.6" to your hard drive.
Open this folder and double click the the "POV-Ray Mac 3.6" alias and
the program will start (don't launch from the image because that will
not work).
Select your include path via "File" >> "preferences.." tab "Scenes".
(select the include folder in the "POV-Ray 3.6" folder).
Now, open a file and select "render xx.pov" from the render menu.
This should work.
If not, stick to MacMegaPOV :-) ;-)
Yvo
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MacMegaPOV at: http://users.skynet.be/smellenbergh
E-mail: yvo### [at] gmxnet
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Greetings,
I read that post and i can't figure out if i can reply here or somewhere
else.So i'll do it here.
I run POV-Ray with Xgrid on a Mac OS X server and all works fine,so i
decided to try some distributed rendering.
The client of Xgrid is in command line version,so i have some problems to
understand how does it works.i read an 'how to' guide to xgrid but it was
useless.
How can i submit a job and make it works?i think the problem is in the
syntax used to set commands and arguments in the command line.Can anyone
help me?
Thanks
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Schwaighofer Clemens <gul### [at] gullevekorg> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> has anyboday already tried to run Povray 3.6 in Tiger? I tried to start
> it, but nothing happens at all.
>
> I also tried MegaPOV and that starts fine.
> lg, Clemens
Here's the problem...sometime after upgrading to Tiger 10.4, then 10.4.1 and
finally 10.4.2 I began to get Finder message's when I try to add version
numbers (or any text that contains a period, '.') to a file or folder's
name, which I do often to help me keep track of updates. The message goes
something like "Are you sure you want to add the extension ".<some text>?".
So, I finally figured out that the Finder did not like to have more than one
'.' in a file name and whould thus always produce the message. Now for
folders this was just an annoyance but did not cause any problems. Native
applications in OS X (not Carbon versions) ARE folders of a special kind
whch have the extention '.app' at the end of thier name, which is usually
hidden, as you can verify by doing a "Get Info..." on them.
I also noticed that in the Finder's preferences the option to "Show all file
extensions" option was gone. It was there in Panther. Taking the problem
at hand here with POVray 3.6, as an example, which I also experienced on
one Mac but not another (generic icon, the app's alias had the program
"manopen"'s icon on it, and doubling-click either brought up the Script
Editor with know window...):
- After unpacking the .sit package, opening the .dmg image, you see the
alias is named:
POV-Ray Mac 3.6
as well as the actual Carbon app in the folder "POV-Ray Mac 3.6
Folder) to which it points.
- When I did a "Get Info..." on the actual app, the "Hide Extension"
checkbox enabled, but unchecked.
This should NOT be the case for a Carbon app. It should be unchecked
AND disabled (grayed-out).
- So I surpmised that somehow the Finder thought this was a OS X app with
the extension ".6" instead
of ".app" as I verified by adding .app to the name so it would read:
POV-Ray Mac 3.6.app
However, upon closing the "Get Info..." window, it showed up in the
Finder as:
POV-Ray Mac 3.app.6
- I went back to the "Get Info..." window and removed everything at the
end of the name that contained '.''s:
POV-Ray Mac
- The progeam's icon now showed up and it launched fine.
This Finder behavior was definitely not right. I have another Mac that I
just did a fresh Tiger install on, after reformatting the disk, then went
straight to 10.4.2 with the Combo updater which I downloaded.
The problem did not occur for POV Ray and I was not getting the Finder
messages when I added names with '.''s in them to Folders or files.
So, somewhere in the previous upgrade process something got corrupted. You
might try trashing your ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist file
and rebooot to see if the problem goes away. If not you might want to do a
Archive & Install of Tiger, then download the 10.4.2 Combo updater and use
it.
Mark
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myannuzzi wrote:
> Schwaighofer Clemens <gul### [at] gullevekorg> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>has anyboday already tried to run Povray 3.6 in Tiger? I tried to start
>>it, but nothing happens at all.
>>
>>I also tried MegaPOV and that starts fine.
>>lg, Clemens
>
>
> Here's the problem...sometime after upgrading to Tiger 10.4, then 10.4.1 and
> finally 10.4.2 I began to get Finder message's when I try to add version
> numbers (or any text that contains a period, '.') to a file or folder's
> name, which I do often to help me keep track of updates. The message goes
> something like "Are you sure you want to add the extension ".<some text>?".
>
> So, I finally figured out that the Finder did not like to have more than one
> '.' in a file name and whould thus always produce the message. Now for
> folders this was just an annoyance but did not cause any problems. Native
> applications in OS X (not Carbon versions) ARE folders of a special kind
> whch have the extention '.app' at the end of thier name, which is usually
> hidden, as you can verify by doing a "Get Info..." on them.
>
> I also noticed that in the Finder's preferences the option to "Show all file
> extensions" option was gone. It was there in Panther. Taking the problem
> at hand here with POVray 3.6, as an example, which I also experienced on
> one Mac but not another (generic icon, the app's alias had the program
> "manopen"'s icon on it, and doubling-click either brought up the Script
> Editor with know window...):
>
> - After unpacking the .sit package, opening the .dmg image, you see the
> alias is named:
> POV-Ray Mac 3.6
> as well as the actual Carbon app in the folder "POV-Ray Mac 3.6
> Folder) to which it points.
> - When I did a "Get Info..." on the actual app, the "Hide Extension"
> checkbox enabled, but unchecked.
> This should NOT be the case for a Carbon app. It should be unchecked
> AND disabled (grayed-out).
> - So I surpmised that somehow the Finder thought this was a OS X app with
> the extension ".6" instead
> of ".app" as I verified by adding .app to the name so it would read:
> POV-Ray Mac 3.6.app
> However, upon closing the "Get Info..." window, it showed up in the
> Finder as:
> POV-Ray Mac 3.app.6
> - I went back to the "Get Info..." window and removed everything at the
> end of the name that contained '.''s:
> POV-Ray Mac
> - The progeam's icon now showed up and it launched fine.
>
> This Finder behavior was definitely not right. I have another Mac that I
> just did a fresh Tiger install on, after reformatting the disk, then went
> straight to 10.4.2 with the Combo updater which I downloaded.
> The problem did not occur for POV Ray and I was not getting the Finder
> messages when I added names with '.''s in them to Folders or files.
>
> So, somewhere in the previous upgrade process something got corrupted. You
> might try trashing your ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist file
> and rebooot to see if the problem goes away. If not you might want to do a
> Archive & Install of Tiger, then download the 10.4.2 Combo updater and use
> it.
You may also file a bug report with Apple about the Finder behavior which is
certainly incorrect as a "." is a legal characater anywhere and in any
number in any file or application name.
Thorsten
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