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From: Convinced
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 7 Nov 2022 08:25:00
Message: <web.6369065c2ef22a6b183179f086ea30fe@news.povray.org>
"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> hi,
>
> Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> > ...
> > I will release the Moray source by the end of this month.
>
> (only a few more hours, and I will have won a bet.  :-))
>
>
> regards, jr.

Have several hundred of us missed something here?
Moray code being released!
Uhhh! First I.ve heard of it.
Where what when,

Certainly hope so or there will be a torchlight procession by the villagers,
TONIGHT!


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From: jr
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 8 Nov 2022 04:35:00
Message: <web.636a22282ef22a6bc0ce110b6cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

"Convinced" <der### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> "jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> > > ...
> > > I will release the Moray source by the end of this month.
> >
> > (only a few more hours, and I will have won a bet.  :-))
> >
> Have several hundred of us missed something here?
> Moray code being released!
> Uhhh! First I.ve heard of it.
> Where what when,
>
> Certainly hope so or there will be a torchlight procession by the villagers,
> TONIGHT!

</sigh>  yes, it looks like .. a long night.  all the "several hundred of us"
(incl self) can hope for is an update by "the man".


regards, jr.


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From: Convinced
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 15 Nov 2022 08:40:00
Message: <web.637396332ef22a6b183179f086ea30fe@news.povray.org>
"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> hi,
>
> "Convinced" <der### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > "jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > > Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > I will release the Moray source by the end of this month.
> > >
> > > (only a few more hours, and I will have won a bet.  :-))
> > >
> > Have several hundred of us missed something here?
> > Moray code being released!
> > Uhhh! First I.ve heard of it.
> > Where what when,
> >
> > Certainly hope so or there will be a torchlight procession by the villagers,
> > TONIGHT!
>
> </sigh>  yes, it looks like .. a long night.  all the "several hundred of us"
> (incl self) can hope for is an update by "the man".
>
>
> regards, jr.

Oh well the torches have burned out and the villagers have gone home, it seems.
Silence, golden silence.


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From: Convinced
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 16 Nov 2022 09:10:00
Message: <web.6374ee902ef22a6b183179f086ea30fe@news.povray.org>
"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> hi,
>
> "Convinced" <der### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > "jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > > Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > I will release the Moray source by the end of this month.
> > >
> > > (only a few more hours, and I will have won a bet.  :-))
> > >
> > Have several hundred of us missed something here?
> > Moray code being released!
> > Uhhh! First I.ve heard of it.
> > Where what when,
> >
> > Certainly hope so or there will be a torchlight procession by the villagers,
> > TONIGHT!
>
> </sigh>  yes, it looks like .. a long night.  all the "several hundred of us"
> (incl self) can hope for is an update by "the man".
>
>
> regards, jr.

AS my last message has disappeared I will repeat it.
The torches have obviously burned out and the villagers have returned to their
homes.
The light at the end of the tunnel has been exinquished.
Looks like we are requesting a rewrite of 3DStudioMax.
Never mind. Miracles do happen.


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From: jr
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 16 Nov 2022 09:40:00
Message: <web.6374f5b32ef22a6bc0ce110b6cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

"Convinced" <der### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> ...
> AS my last message has disappeared I will repeat it.

nope.  still shows in the web ui, see attached.


> The torches have obviously burned out and the villagers have returned to their
> homes.
> The light at the end of the tunnel has been exinquished.
> Looks like we are requesting a rewrite of 3DStudioMax.
> Never mind. Miracles do happen.

re the last, fingers crossed ;-).


regards, jr.


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From: jr
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 16 Nov 2022 10:30:00
Message: <web.637500f42ef22a6bc0ce110b6cde94f1@news.povray.org>
"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> "Convinced" <der### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > ...
> > AS my last message has disappeared I will repeat it.
>
> nope.  still shows in the web ui, see attached.

fwiw, when I use 'tin' to read the NG, I get a "unexpected end of
multipart/mixed article" message for both your posts.


regards, jr.


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From: Convinced
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 20 Nov 2022 09:55:00
Message: <web.637a3f152ef22a6b183179f086ea30fe@news.povray.org>
"jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> "jr" <cre### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > "Convinced" <der### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > > ...
> > > AS my last message has disappeared I will repeat it.
> >
> > nope.  still shows in the web ui, see attached.
>
> fwiw, when I use 'tin' to read the NG, I get a "unexpected end of
> multipart/mixed article" message for both your posts.
>
>
> regards, jr.

Looks like we might as well discuss something else as the subject of this thread
has died, as usual, what about your favourite colour or music, the weather is
usually a good thing.
If the code is out there, then where is it. If not, why not.
Fingers crossed.


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 20 Nov 2022 12:40:00
Message: <web.637a65602ef22a6b1f9dae3025979125@news.povray.org>
"Convinced" <der### [at] gmailcom> wrote:

> Looks like we might as well discuss something else as the subject of this thread
> has died, as usual, what about your favourite colour or music, the weather is
> usually a good thing.
> If the code is out there, then where is it. If not, why not.
> Fingers crossed.

Blue.  Classic Yes.   It's November in NH, so it's cold and windy.

Given the fact that there are numerous very important things going on in the
world, seeming Hell-bent on collapsing all of Western Civilization as we know it
, bankrupting and killing most of via one means or another...

Chris Cason lives in the tyrannically oppressed nation of Australia:
"Persistence of Vision Pty. Ltd., Williamstown, Victoria, Australia."

So there may be any number of things that would be vastly more important than
getting back to this thread topic.

I hope he is in good health, his business and property are doing well and
intact, and he is able to stay warm and eat this winter.


Hopefully he will find the time to peek in and make the code available, and I
hope it's just the usual (I was busy / distracted / I forgot) and there's
nothing serious that has made him unable to do so.

And on THAT topic, I hope everyone else here in our little corner of the
internet is doing well, preparing to brave the hard times we may be confronting
in the future, and building a support network in case they find themselves in
need.


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 20 Nov 2022 14:54:24
Message: <637a85f0@news.povray.org>
On 21/11/2022 04:35, Bald Eagle wrote:

> Chris Cason lives in the tyrannically oppressed nation of Australia:
> "Persistence of Vision Pty. Ltd., Williamstown, Victoria, Australia."
> 
> So there may be any number of things that would be vastly more important than
> getting back to this thread topic.
> 
> I hope he is in good health, his business and property are doing well and
> intact, and he is able to stay warm and eat this winter.
> 
> Hopefully he will find the time to peek in and make the code available, and I
> hope it's just the usual (I was busy / distracted / I forgot) and there's
> nothing serious that has made him unable to do so.

I should have posted updates sooner than now, and for that I apologize. Yes there is
'stuff' going on here that limits my time and yes some of them are health related (I'm
60 now, so not surprising I guess) but not serious.

Status of source: after some spelunking it became clear there's multiple
considerations with re-assigning the licenses to AGPL. This is not something I can
allow to get wrong, since once it's out it's out. Honestly legal issues have worried
me for a long time and is most of the reason I haven't released it.

So: with the help of forum regular JR we have classified most of the almost 1,000
source files (yes, so ... many ... files) into a few major categories in terms of what
copyright they had, where they came from, and so forth.

With each of these classifications I need to get legal advice on exactly what needs to
be done in terms of copyright headers etc. For some we may not touch them. For some,
we can add a new header but will need to keep the old ones. Some may need modification
of existing headers. Some would be suitable for removal of old headers. Some may not
be releasable at all (though I don't think this applies to anything important, as
those have been rectified in the past). And so forth.

Once I know for sure what to do and that it is safe to release with the required
modifications I will put it up on github. But I can't risk doing ot before we know
that.

So there's the status. Yes the source exists and is not a mirage, JR has seen it :-).

-- Chris


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From: jr
Subject: Re: I want do develop a povray modeler for povray based on Moray 3.5
Date: 21 Nov 2022 07:05:00
Message: <web.637b68c82ef22a6bc0ce110b6cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

"Convinced" <der### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> ...
> Fingers crossed.

keep doing, seems to work.  ;-)


regards, jr.


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