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From: Stephen McAvoy
Subject: Voting?
Date: 18 Jul 2004 12:04:10
Message: <kq7lf0pg04pc85vevfdnnfkv6bk3q457u3@4ax.com>
Hi,
As this is the first time I have entered an IRTC I am at a loss as how
to vote. What is the procedure and does anyone have a method? 
Well I'll find out the method when voting opens I suppose but how do
you old pro's go about it?


Regards
        Stephen


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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: Voting?
Date: 18 Jul 2004 12:29:22
Message: <40faa562$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen McAvoy wrote:
> Hi,
> As this is the first time I have entered an IRTC I am at a loss as how
> to vote. What is the procedure and does anyone have a method? 
> Well I'll find out the method when voting opens I suppose but how do
> you old pro's go about it?

Step 1: Register

http://www.irtc.org/register.html

There's a web page on the IRTC website for this. Use the email 
address you've used in the text file with your entry, and pick a 
password. You'll receive a confirmation email. Send it back. 
You'll receive another, final confirmation. Now you're free to 
vote for the round you're participating.

Step 2: Log in and assign points for the different videos/pictures.

You'll have to wait for the web page to update. Usually, it's 
below the "News" headline in the main table, like it's for the 
stills contest right now.

NB: you can't vote on your own entry.

Alternatively, there's a windows program maintained that allows 
for offline viewing and voting and will generate a 
machine-readable email for you.

Hope this helps?
-Markus


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From: Stephen McAvoy
Subject: Re: Voting?
Date: 18 Jul 2004 13:40:48
Message: <kgdlf0lio0nm5fopg50jlds2eru0lnamj3@4ax.com>
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:29:23 +0200, Markus Altendorff
<maa### [at] anthrosphinxde> wrote:

>Hope this helps?

Sorry Markus, I did not make myself clear. 
What method do people use to rank the entries? What does one look for
in an animation Etc?


Regards
        Stephen


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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: Voting?
Date: 18 Jul 2004 17:58:17
Message: <40faf279@news.povray.org>
Stephen McAvoy wrote:

> Sorry Markus, I did not make myself clear. 
> What method do people use to rank the entries? What does one look for
> in an animation Etc?

I think there are as many approaches to voting as there are voters...
Personally, i start out with 10 points = average for every film, 
and add/subtract from that. I tend to consider "effort" for each 
area, so for example a spectacular effect alone that's part of 
some advanced software package doesn't warrant an extra bonus 
(NB: in my opinion). An "average" result done with hard-to-master 
tools, on the other hand, earns a bonus with me.
- If someone uses high-end tools, i expect to see an over all 
high-end result... :-)
- It's sometimes|often hard to separate the artistic/tech/concept 
ratings.

A few things that tick me off to no end:
- ripped soundtracks from "commercial" music without even 
mentioning it (apart from the fact that this could get the web 
host into trouble...). I don't mind if someone uses connections 
to get permission or something, but then this should go into the 
description...
- these people that give absolutely no description at all

Things i like (mostly because i've not mastered them for myself ;-):
- good timing
- detailed models
- smooth and/or on-topic animations
- camerawork

I like a nice soundtrack, but remember that's not to be part of 
the voting! So your animation should better "work" with speakers 
off, too...

I rate all movies in one sitting (not submitting the result yet), 
and repeat that the next day to see if my ratings change.

I add comments. Be fair, but also be honest. I like getting 
comments (whenever i enter...), and i like to comment on the 
comments for my work later in the newsgroup or on the mailing 
list once voting is complete.

As for artistic... remember, "odd looking" doesn't necessarily 
mean it's modern art - maybe it's really just a bad movie after 
all ;-)

Just some starting points. As i said, that's how i go about it. 
Your way of voting may be totally different.

-Markus


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Voting?
Date: 19 Jul 2004 05:20:01
Message: <web.40fb912513ba9bd471087b900@news.povray.org>
Markus Altendorff <maa### [at] anthrosphinxde> wrote:
>
> I think there are as many approaches to voting as there are voters...

[snip]
> Just some starting points. As i said, that's how i go about it.
> Your way of voting may be totally different.
>
> -Markus

Thanks Markus, just what I need. As for comments, I am of the school of

anything at all. But then I too appreciate constructive criticism. So this
is going to make voting harder.

easier. No distraction from the music. When I was interested in photography
it was easier to spot flaws in a photograph if I viewed it upside down, no
distractions.
More comments welcome

Stephen


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