Am 03.03.2011 08:12, schrieb Fabien:
> How did you guys MANAGE to get to this situation ?
>
> After the "admins are gone, pschiiiit", now it's
> a "software issue", which you don't EVEN consider
> to fix.
>
>  From the "bazaar or cathedral", you once chose the
> cathedral, and due to the useless secrecy and disdain
> for newcomers that could help, now that's a shabby
> and ruined cathedral ! I'm talking of POV-Ray, there,
> the IRTC being just the most visible victim of that
> incredible attitude.

Apparently you didn't even bother to inform yourself properly about the 
organizational structures around POV-Ray and the IRTC.

I'm not sure about the roots of the IRTC, but the recent "revival" was 
/not/ run by the organization that owns the software name "POV-Ray" - it 
was run by an individual from the community, for the community; all the 
"POV-Ray organization" had to do with it was that it supported the 
project with server space and communication channels (there is a reason, 
for instance, that the IRTC newsgroups are not named "povray.*", but 
"irtc.*").

So what you see is indeed /not/ the result of a cathedral approach at 
all, but to the contrary that of a bazaar: A shop has closed down 
because it didn't have enough customers, not enough employees, the wrong 
quality of goods, or whatever - it was /not/ a decision of some high 
priest to discontinue it, but of the person who had been running the shop.

Your problem is actually that you apparently /want/ a cathedral, where 
you can just go to and receive something, and if you don't get what you 
need you can blame it on the priests. A bazaar isn't that easy for the 
customers: They have to go round and ask where they can get things; they 
may have to invest something to get them; and some things may not be for 
offer even when they're badly needed. And last not least there's no 
single person or organization you can blame when something doesn't run 
smoothly.

So here you are, standing in the middle of the market place, crying out 
aloud that this whole bazaar you call POV-Ray makes for a shabby 
cathedral. Duh.

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