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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Another reason to hate Windows 7
Date: 27 Sep 2011 19:00:00
Message: <web.4e821ce3dda7995285de7b680@news.povray.org>
I start an overnight render.  I wake up the next morning, expecting a beautiful,
polished image.

Instead, the damn machine has gone into sleep mode!

Sleep mode is good. It saves power.

BUT NOT WHILE THE COMPUTER IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A TASK.

Someone recently mentioned the principle of least surprise in p.o-t.  Micro$hit
seems adamantly opposed to the whole concept.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Another reason to hate Windows 7
Date: 27 Sep 2011 20:36:19
Message: <4e8233c3@news.povray.org>
Cousin Ricky <rickysttATyahooDOTcom> wrote:
> Instead, the damn machine has gone into sleep mode!

  And I assume there's no way of saying "don't go to sleep mode if this
program is running"? Or even "don't go to sleep mode if there's significant
CPU activity"?

  OTOH, probably no OS has such a feature (at least not out-of-the-box,
easily selectable via GUI).

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Another reason to hate Windows 7
Date: 27 Sep 2011 20:48:40
Message: <4e8236a8@news.povray.org>
Le 2011/09/27 14:58, Cousin Ricky a écrit :
> I start an overnight render.  I wake up the next morning, expecting a beautiful,
> polished image.
>
> Instead, the damn machine has gone into sleep mode!
>
> Sleep mode is good. It saves power.
>
> BUT NOT WHILE THE COMPUTER IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A TASK.
>
> Someone recently mentioned the principle of least surprise in p.o-t.  Micro$hit
> seems adamantly opposed to the whole concept.
>
>
>

One of the first thing I do on a freshly installed/new computer it to 
set it as a presentation machine. This effectively disable automatic 
sleep mode.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Another reason to hate Windows 7
Date: 27 Sep 2011 21:10:18
Message: <4e823bba$1@news.povray.org>
On 27/09/2011 7:58 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> Sleep mode is good. It saves power.
>
> BUT NOT WHILE THE COMPUTER IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A TASK.

Create a custom Power Plan to use when rendering when the 'putor never 
goes to sleep.
Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Power Options\Edit Plan Settings


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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Another reason to hate Windows 7
Date: 28 Sep 2011 07:59:27
Message: <4e82d3df$1@news.povray.org>
On 27-9-2011 23:10, Stephen wrote:
> On 27/09/2011 7:58 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> Sleep mode is good. It saves power.
>>
>> BUT NOT WHILE THE COMPUTER IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A TASK.
>
> Create a custom Power Plan to use when rendering when the 'putor never
> goes to sleep.
> Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Power Options\Edit Plan Settings
>
>
Hey! thanks Stephen! I had not (yet) found that option either! I have 
selected High Performance now.

By the way: Personally, I like Windows 7 quite a lot...

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Another reason to hate Windows 7
Date: 28 Sep 2011 10:05:56
Message: <4e82f184$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/09/2011 8:59 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 27-9-2011 23:10, Stephen wrote:

>> Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Power Options\Edit Plan Settings
>>
>>
> Hey! thanks Stephen! I had not (yet) found that option either! I have
> selected High Performance now.
>

An essential setting for all Povers IMO.

> By the way: Personally, I like Windows 7 quite a lot...
>

So do I. It is a bit resource hungry but my current machine has the 
resources. I actually saw the memory usage go higher than 5.5 Gigs today 
while I was experimenting with Poser hair.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Another reason to hate Windows 7
Date: 28 Sep 2011 11:18:20
Message: <4e83027c$1@news.povray.org>
On 28-9-2011 12:05, Stephen wrote:
> On 28/09/2011 8:59 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 27-9-2011 23:10, Stephen wrote:
>
>>> Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Power Options\Edit Plan Settings
>>>
>>>
>> Hey! thanks Stephen! I had not (yet) found that option either! I have
>> selected High Performance now.
>>
>
> An essential setting for all Povers IMO.

Absolutely. I had not looked at the power utility yet because I believed 
it was not essential when on a PC. How wrong I was :-)

I should do something to my Windows 7 Curiosity Setting: Very Low; Low; 
Average (default); High, Very High.

Mine was set at Low apparently... ;-)

>
>> By the way: Personally, I like Windows 7 quite a lot...
>>
>
> So do I. It is a bit resource hungry but my current machine has the
> resources. I actually saw the memory usage go higher than 5.5 Gigs today
> while I was experimenting with Poser hair.

Yes, that can be expected. Best to have enough resources.

Thomas


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Another reason to hate Windows 7
Date: 28 Sep 2011 17:35:58
Message: <4e835afe@news.povray.org>
Le 2011/09/27 14:58, Cousin Ricky a écrit :
> I start an overnight render.  I wake up the next morning, expecting a beautiful,
> polished image.
>
> Instead, the damn machine has gone into sleep mode!
>
> Sleep mode is good. It saves power.
>
> BUT NOT WHILE THE COMPUTER IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A TASK.
>
> Someone recently mentioned the principle of least surprise in p.o-t.  Micro$hit
> seems adamantly opposed to the whole concept.
>
>
>
By the way, power management have been there since windows 95 if I 
remember corectly... Things like turning display off, powering off the 
hard drives when idle, throtling down the CPU if the BIOS support it,...

It's only that some features got added over time as the hardware started 
to offer the possibility, and the terminology used seems to have changed 
with 7... to some extent.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Another reason to hate Windows 7
Date: 29 Sep 2011 19:15:31
Message: <4e84c3d3@news.povray.org>
On 9/27/2011 13:36, Warp wrote:
> Cousin Ricky<rickysttATyahooDOTcom>  wrote:
>> Instead, the damn machine has gone into sleep mode!
>
>    And I assume there's no way of saying "don't go to sleep mode if this
> program is running"?

Windows asks each program if it's OK to go to sleep before it does so. 
POV-Ray would have to be coded to recognize that message and deny sleeping 
while a render is in progress. Most disk burners, for example, will do this.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   How come I never get only one kudo?


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Another reason to hate Windows 7
Date: 3 Oct 2011 06:48:14
Message: <4e895aae$1@news.povray.org>
On 29-9-2011 21:15, Darren New wrote:
> Windows asks each program if it's OK to go to sleep before it does so.
> POV-Ray would have to be coded to recognize that message and deny
> sleeping while a render is in progress. Most disk burners, for example,
> will do this.

Am I right in assuming that we should put this is the Wish List?

Thomas


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