"Chris Cason" <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote in 
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> BobH wrote:
>
>> Got to say it... program and scene file location is bothersome to me.
>
> I don't like it either. I feel uncomfortable having everything in the one
> place (which is why I fixed it in 3.7). However the code refers to the
> install path in many places and since the codebase is now so different
> between v3.6 and v3.7 I'd basically have to do all the changes over again.
>
> But thinking of it, I really think you're right. I might just have to go 
> in
> and do it.

Which is why I didn't want to make you feel pressured to do that just for my 
own sake. I'm sure you would rather consider this new 3.6 version finished.

The way it's an update to 3.6 I know most people will find all this to be a 
problem, too, when they try to go from the old to new. I thought it might 
not matter if no previous file were already left open in 3.6.1c when last 
used. What I really didn't expect (but probably should have) was 3.6.2 
finding one elsewhere even when no open files were left in editor, by going 
into File|Open.

For me, not so much a problem if the file view settings had not locked me 
out. That made me believe it was causing trouble for either Windows, or POV 
itself had difficulty interfacing with the file system, or whatever other 
reason unknown to me. I've only kept everything as administrator status, no 
other user account exists.

Bob

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Chris Cason wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> I've generated a v3.62 RC1 POVWIN and new installer. I'd appreciate it if
> some of you could test it as the installer in particular is a re-write.
> 
>   http://www.povray.org/temp/POVWin-v3.62-RC1.msi
> 
> Note: on Vista systems, the files will be installed by default to your
> local profile. On XP and earlier, the default remains Program Files.

I've updated this to RC2, which includes splitting the binaries and text
files dirs.

    http://www.povray.org/temp/POVWin-v3.62-RC2.msi

Scenes, INI files, etc, will be installed to "My Documents\POV-Ray\v3.6"
(or the equivalent).

-- Chris

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"Chris Cason" <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote in 
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>
> I've updated this to RC2, which includes splitting the binaries and text
> files dirs.
>
>    http://www.povray.org/temp/POVWin-v3.62-RC2.msi
>
> Scenes, INI files, etc, will be installed to "My Documents\POV-Ray\v3.6"
> (or the equivalent).

Wow, that was fast! A tremendous thank you from me to you. So much better 
this way.

Guess I'm going to be removing 3.6.1c after I check this new one awhile, 
MegaPOV, etc.

Hmmm. Some tidying up to do in that first install location, the uninstall 
left renders in there because I didn't change from default file output.  : )

Bob

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"BobH" <omniverse*charter!net> wrote in message 
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>
> Guess I'm going to be removing 3.6.1c after I check this new one awhile, 
> MegaPOV, etc.

Trouble with library paths using megapov, needed to move its includes into 
the v3.6\includes. Seems peculiar that it didn't want to use the 
Library_Path= I added for its own location(s).
So to anyone else doing megapov+v3.6.2, put the files into the v3.6 
locations (unless you have success any other way first). I just didn't want 
to mix them but this was the only way.

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Another pass at a hopefully final 32-bit binary and installer:

  http://www.povray.org/temp/POVWin-v3.62.msi

The only significant difference between this and RC2 is that libpng has
been updated to the latest available.

-- Chris

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Ken wrote:
t smoothly on Vista 64 but it intalled the 32 bit version
> rather than the 64 bit version. I presum the 64 bit compile will be made 
> available in a different dowload package once you have time to put it 
> together?

Hi Ken,

Please give this a try:

  http://www.povray.org/temp/POVWin-v3.62-64bit.msi

-- Chris

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"Chris Cason" <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote in 
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> Ken wrote:
> t smoothly on Vista 64 but it intalled the 32 bit version
>> rather than the 64 bit version. I presum the 64 bit compile will be made
>> available in a different dowload package once you have time to put it
>> together?
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> Please give this a try:
>
>  http://www.povray.org/temp/POVWin-v3.62-64bit.msi
>
> -- Chris

Worked just peachy, Chris. The install was clean and the renderer appears to 
be fully functional.
I'll beat up on it for a while but the few scenes I've rendered so far look 
good.

Ken

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Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I've generated a v3.62 RC1 POVWIN and new installer. I'd appreciate it if
> some of you could test it as the installer in particular is a re-write.
>
>   http://www.povray.org/temp/POVWin-v3.62-RC1.msi
>
> Note: on Vista systems, the files will be installed by default to your
> local profile. On XP and earlier, the default remains Program Files.
>
> -- Chris

I uninstalled 3.6.1c a few days ago, and just now installed 3.6.2 (64 bit; Vista
Home Premium 64) about 30 minutes ago.

Before running the installer under Vista I set to -> "unblock". At some point
after running it a couple of times from the desktop shortcut (but I haven't
rendered anything yet), I have set the desktop shortcut to "Run as
Administrator"; no particular reason, I just did that with 3.6.1 back in 2007
when I got my new Vista computer, and I thought it might help with the "HELP"
problem mentioned in para (2) below (it didn't fix the problem).

DURING installation, I forced the install folder to "C:\POV-Ray\", due to some
old Vista oddities that became apparant when I installed 3.6.1 back in 2007.

(1)(a) Splitting off the INI files, scene files, etc into - > Documents is VERY
confusing. Why not just intall these into the POV-Ray installation folder? (In
my case under C:\POV-Ray\).

I have two (500 Gb) hard drives in a RAID 1 config, "Documents" is on D:\ (thats
just the way my computer builder set it up back in 2007). So now POVRay is on
C:, the INI files and so forth are shoved into D:\Documents. I ** think ** I
have figured out how to "transplant" all of the stuff from D:\Documents into
C:\POV-Ray (where they belong, in my opinion...), and alter things so that the
"transplants" are recognized - I don't want to fool with it until after I get
some replies to this... hopefully with a precise procedure to follow.

(1)(b) I thought I would try setting a "compatibility mode" for the desktop
shortcut (I did that with 3.6.1, it *might have* solved a couple of problems
under Vista back in 2007, but this is unverified) but the compatibility mode
settings for the shortcut are greyed out / un-set-able with 3.6.2 for some
reason.

(1)(c) When I FIRST ran the desktop shortcut, it (Vista) did not know where to
find the executable. I had to "Browse" to it manually the first time.

(2) While IN POV-Ray, clicking "Help" has no effect. Neither does any "Help with
This Menu". I have to manually navigate into C:\POV-Ray\help\, and click on the
povray36.chm file. I invoked REGEDIT.EXE and searched for povray36.chm, and
NONE of the ini files seem to point to the help files. How do I fix this?

I CAN work with 3.6.2 the way it is, but I would rather "fix it" (if possible).
If there is something different that I could do during installation, I am
prepared to UNinstall 3.6.2 and re-install it.

.... and one reason that I am reporting these oddities is to (hopefully) prevent
them from appearing whenever 3.7 is officially released (in my history w/
POVRay, I am reluctant to even try betas, I tend to wait for the official
releases).

- Thanks

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"JeffBTX" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > I've generated a v3.62 RC1 POVWIN and new installer. I'd appreciate it if
> > some of you could test it as the installer in particular is a re-write.
> >
> >   http://www.povray.org/temp/POVWin-v3.62-RC1.msi
> >
> > Note: on Vista systems, the files will be installed by default to your
> > local profile. On XP and earlier, the default remains Program Files.
> >
> > -- Chris
>
> I uninstalled 3.6.1c a few days ago, and just now installed 3.6.2 (64 bit; Vista
> Home Premium 64) about 30 minutes ago.
>

Never mind and sorry, to an extent... I think I now see why the INI files (etc)
were forced into \Documents (sorry, I should have done that forum research
BEFORE I made my post).

Okay, then... I can assume that it will be this way (probably) for 3.7, as a way
of coping with the Vista "Program Files and Ini Files" problem.

Can I ALTER POVRay so that all files (includes, ini's, etc) are copied (moved)
from D:\Documents into C:\POV-Ray, and this will be recognized and it will work
properly? (I THINK I see how to do this, but better wait for a reply or three
before I try it).

How do I fix the Help File problem? POV-Ray 3.6.2 under Vista (installed into
C:\POV-Ray) is not invoking the help file (povray36.chm). I have to do invoke
the help file manually/ separately. I CAN work with this, but it is
inconvenient. (and kind of foolish... clicking "HELP" does not "help". Its kind
of like... you hire contractors to build you a new house, but your porch light
switch turns on the dishwasher, and turning on the dishwasher does nothing...
or perhaps raises your neighbor's garage door).

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ALSO....

I just rendered one scene from Advanced to get started... Sounds are apparantly
NOT working. I just rendered "biscuit.pov" from \advanced, no sound when done.
I double checked Render -> Sound settings.

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