Mael wrote:
> 
> > BTW, what's 'BRDF_PATCH', is it not in the compiled windows version or is
> > it just not documented yet?
> 
> it's not in the compiled windows version because it's a work in progress, i'm
> doing some tests writing BRDF stuff (for anisotropic highlights for example,
> or to give a local micro-geometry and computes the resulting BRDF) (it really
> needs lot of work...)
> 

Interesting, how will it work?  Will you be able to use a function with
additional parameters for the intersection information or do you have some
different method in mind?

(followup-to povray.unofficial.patches)

Christoph

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> > it's not in the compiled windows version because it's a work in
progress, i'm
> > doing some tests writing BRDF stuff (for anisotropic highlights for
example,
> > or to give a local micro-geometry and computes the resulting BRDF) (it
really
> > needs lot of work...)
> >
>
> Interesting, how will it work?  Will you be able to use a function with
> additional parameters for the intersection information or do you have some
> different method in mind?

the idea is : give an object (ex: a union of small aligned cylinders for a
brushed metal, or some kind of grass for velvet etc...) that will represent
the micro-geometry of the surface, then do some ray tracing and average for
different positions of light/viewer with this geometry and a simple model
for light interaction (diffuse+phong+shadow), and try to fit parameters of a
general BRDF model to get those results.
In fact this is the same as using a very small normal modifier except that
it would work without heavy antialiasing, and also could take into account
effects of self-shadowing in the micro-geometry. The problem is that s it s
not easy to find a good general model for BRDF (a 4D function !) which does
not require too much parameters.

M

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In article <3d6d115e@news.povray.org>, "Mael" <mae### [at] hotmailcom> 
wrote:

> the idea is : give an object (ex: a union of small aligned cylinders for a
> brushed metal, or some kind of grass for velvet etc...) that will represent
> the micro-geometry of the surface, then do some ray tracing and average for
> different positions of light/viewer with this geometry and a simple model
> for light interaction (diffuse+phong+shadow), and try to fit parameters of a
> general BRDF model to get those results.
> In fact this is the same as using a very small normal modifier except that
> it would work without heavy antialiasing, and also could take into account
> effects of self-shadowing in the micro-geometry. The problem is that s it s
> not easy to find a good general model for BRDF (a 4D function !) which does
> not require too much parameters.

Disclaimer: I don't actually know anything about BRDF functions.

I've considered doing something similar, allowing the falloff of the 
shading and the hightlight to be controlled with splines. You might be 
able to write a POV script that uses trace() to compute an appropriate 
spline...it would only be dependant on angle to the surface though. 
Maybe there is some way to make it even more flexible...controlling it 
with a spline surface instead of a spline curve.
Computing an arbitrary spline would probably be slower than necessary 
though...maybe sample the object along each axis (in other words, from 
each corner of an octahedron, maybe allow higher or lower polyhedrons 
for more precision[0]), transform the samples to the surface so one axis 
points along the surface normal and another is in plane with an "up" 
vector (for orientation), and interpolate those samples to get the 
approximate value from the ray direction...

[0]: Actually, I think a half-polyhedron would be sufficient...7 corners 
of an octahedron, since the 8th would be on the other side of the BRDF 
source shape. Maybe a tetrahedron on the surface of the shape, with each 
side subdivided into more triangles to increase resolution. Maybe a set 
of random samples or some other way to achieve a fairly even 
distribution.

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