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From: hary
Subject: ibatch for *.ttf font with beveld edges?
Date: 19 Nov 2000 09:17:16
Message: <3A17E16F.A16906BE@junkmail.mi>
is there a  version to create a text from a *.ttf font with beveld
edges?


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: ibatch for *.ttf font with beveld edges?
Date: 19 Nov 2000 09:56:27
Message: <3A17EA19.E99C1B5E@schunter.etc.tu-bs.de>
hary wrote:
> 
> is there a  version to create a text from a *.ttf font with beveld
> edges?

There is a program called elefont that can do this:

http://www.armanisoft.ch/

Christoph

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: ibatch for *.ttf font with beveld edges?
Date: 19 Nov 2000 11:02:10
Message: <3A17FA0A.95F3D7DE@pacbell.net>
hary wrote:
> 
> is there a  version to create a text from a *.ttf font with beveld
> edges?

None that I am aware of. I have tried to talk a few people into
writting such a patch but it is very difficult to do and no one
wants to spend the time on it.

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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: ibatch for *.ttf font with beveld edges?
Date: 20 Nov 2000 00:43:24
Message: <slrn91heg0.bn5.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 08:04:26 -0800, Ken wrote:
>
>
>hary wrote:
>> 
>> is there a  version to create a text from a *.ttf font with beveld
>> edges?
>
>None that I am aware of. I have tried to talk a few people into
>writting such a patch but it is very difficult to do and no one
>wants to spend the time on it.

Mathematically, it's impossible to do in a general way.  Specifically, you
can't create a curve that's parallel to an arbitrary cubic or quadratic curve.  
Since POV uses curves rather than decomposing them into lines (as elefont does)
it can't be done without making some major (and ugly) changes in the way TTF
objects work.

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Ron Parker   http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions.  Mine.  Not anyone else's.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: ibatch for *.ttf font with beveld edges?
Date: 20 Nov 2000 00:56:16
Message: <3A18BD89.80A26EA2@pacbell.net>
Ron Parker wrote:

> Mathematically, it's impossible to do in a general way.  Specifically, you
> can't create a curve that's parallel to an arbitrary cubic or quadratic curve.
> Since POV uses curves rather than decomposing them into lines (as elefont does)
> it can't be done without making some major (and ugly) changes in the way TTF
> objects work.

I must say that you sounded a bit more optimistic about this subject
that last time we held this discussion (12/16/99) but I will agree
that it is not a trivial feature to implement.

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Ken Tyler - 1400+ POV-Ray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: ibatch for *.ttf font with beveld edges?
Date: 20 Nov 2000 01:14:28
Message: <slrn91hga4.bn5.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:58:33 -0800, Ken wrote:
>
>
>Ron Parker wrote:
>
>> Mathematically, it's impossible to do in a general way.  Specifically, you
>> can't create a curve that's parallel to an arbitrary cubic or quadratic curve.
>> Since POV uses curves rather than decomposing them into lines (as elefont does)
>> it can't be done without making some major (and ugly) changes in the way TTF
>> objects work.
>
>I must say that you sounded a bit more optimistic about this subject
>that last time we held this discussion (12/16/99) but I will agree
>that it is not a trivial feature to implement.

Maybe I knew something then that I don't know now.  Could you give me an XRef
header so I can see what I said then?

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Ron Parker   http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions.  Mine.  Not anyone else's.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: ibatch for *.ttf font with beveld edges?
Date: 20 Nov 2000 01:21:59
Message: <3A18C391.90228D5B@pacbell.net>
Ron Parker wrote:

> Maybe I knew something then that I don't know now.  Could you give me an XRef
> header so I can see what I said then?

news://news.povray.org/385a4837%40news.povray.org

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http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: ibatch for *.ttf font with beveld edges?
Date: 20 Nov 2000 01:24:43
Message: <slrn91hgtb.bnq.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:24:17 -0800, Ken wrote:
>
>
>Ron Parker wrote:
>
>> Maybe I knew something then that I don't know now.  Could you give me an XRef
>> header so I can see what I said then?
>
>news://news.povray.org/385a4837%40news.povray.org

'at's not an XRef header!  I wanted a group and article number, since that's 
how my archive is organized.  But I guess that'll do.

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Ron Parker   http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions.  Mine.  Not anyone else's.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: ibatch for *.ttf font with beveld edges?
Date: 20 Nov 2000 01:27:49
Message: <3A18C4EF.F9631DEF@pacbell.net>
Ron Parker wrote:

> 'at's not an XRef header!  I wanted a group and article number, since that's
> how my archive is organized.  But I guess that'll do.

Sorry.  The thread started with this message and went from there -

Xref: news.povray.org povray.unofficial.patches:1560

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http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: ibatch for *.ttf font with beveld edges?
Date: 20 Nov 2000 01:28:38
Message: <slrn91hh4m.bnq.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:58:33 -0800, Ken wrote:
>
>
>Ron Parker wrote:
>
>> Mathematically, it's impossible to do in a general way.  Specifically, you
>> can't create a curve that's parallel to an arbitrary cubic or quadratic curve.
>> Since POV uses curves rather than decomposing them into lines (as elefont does)
>> it can't be done without making some major (and ugly) changes in the way TTF
>> objects work.
>
>I must say that you sounded a bit more optimistic about this subject
>that last time we held this discussion (12/16/99) but I will agree
>that it is not a trivial feature to implement.

Well... I guess I wasn't all that optimistic then either.  What I said then,
in short, was that *if* there were a way to generate a parallel curve to a 
given quadratic curve, it could be done.  That's pretty much what I said this
time, too.

-- 
Ron Parker   http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions.  Mine.  Not anyone else's.


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