and why don't they work?  Tried this with both Mega and Offical versions.

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"H. E. Day" <Pov### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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| and why don't they work?  Tried this with both Mega and Offical versions.

Works for me.

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"H. E. Day" wrote:
> 
> and why don't they work?  Tried this with both Mega and Offical versions.

I don't know if this is what you meant, but I noticed (some time ago) 
that, once you use shadowless, a spotlight is equal to a pointlight.  
It seems that the "limiting cone" is in fact a shadowing effect, 
and thus dissapear with shadowless...

In some cases, you could maybe get the feature you were seeking
by using the "light groups" in MegaPOV.

Fabien.

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On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:28:45 +0200, Fabien Mosen
<fab### [at] skynetbe> wrote:

>"H. E. Day" wrote:
>> 
>> and why don't they work?  Tried this with both Mega and Offical versions.
>
>I don't know if this is what you meant, but I noticed (some time ago) 
>that, once you use shadowless, a spotlight is equal to a pointlight.  
>It seems that the "limiting cone" is in fact a shadowing effect, 
>and thus dissapear with shadowless...

Shadowless lights were initially implemented as fill lights long
before radiosity provided a better solution. As such, they don't
create highlights, don't drop shadows and I think they are not
restricted by the spotlight light cone.


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Oh wow, that was a dumb thing for me to say about using a cone and arealight
to do the shadowless spotlight!  Hope my reply just now gets cancelled
before anyone sees it  :-)
Again, I hadn't realized this was the problem before, I was only looking for
a shadow or not.

Bob

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From the manual:
"Shadowless may be used with area_light but not spotlight or cylinder."
I wish it were possible...
G.

"H. E. Day" wrote:

> and why don't they work?  Tried this with both Mega and Offical versions.
>
> --
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Gilles Tran <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote:
: From the manual:
: "Shadowless may be used with area_light but not spotlight or cylinder."

  I wonder what's the point in using a shadowless area_light. As far as I
know, it's a waste of time (using a point light would make no difference?).

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Warp wrote:

> Gilles Tran <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote:
> : From the manual:
> : "Shadowless may be used with area_light but not spotlight or cylinder."
>
>   I wonder what's the point in using a shadowless area_light. As far as I
> know, it's a waste of time (using a point light would make no difference?).

Probably Povray just goes by the saying that everything that is not
formallyforbidden is authorised...
G.

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In article <397c1596@news.povray.org>, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> 
wrote:

>   I wonder what's the point in using a shadowless area_light. As far as I
> know, it's a waste of time (using a point light would make no 
> difference?).

I think you are right...area lights only affect shadows, the shading is 
the same as for point lights.

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I had this problem once, and resorted to fading light.

Grim

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