"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
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> Hola,
>
> Has anyone had any experience with Ubuntu's version of Linux?

Hey thanks everyone for the comments! I took a look at openSUSE.org I see 
what you mean (warp & other jim) about the hardware coverage. That website 
had an extensive hardware guide .... impressive. I have dialup so I looked 
at the boxed option .... $59.95 still not a bad deal considering the support 
option that's included. Chris Cason answered on the thread I started on 
povray.windows .... he seems to be an Ubuntu fan. I'm not much on bells and 
whistles I just want something good stable and reliable. I cut my teeth on 
RTE-VI then hp-ux, and I've just had it with MS. So again thanks everyone 
for taking a moment to help me out.

Ciao Jim

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Jim Holsenback <jho### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> I have dialup so I looked 
> at the boxed option .... $59.95

  Wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run to get ADSL? You'll get a much
faster connection too.

-- 
                                                          - Warp

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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
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>  Wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run to get ADSL? You'll get a much
> faster connection too.
>
> -- 
>                                                          - Warp

I'm Waaaaay out in the country and get laughed at when I query my 
telecommunications provider about ANY kind of high speed connection. I can't 
even get cable TV out here (not that I watch much TV) ..... anyway I had a 
guy out a couple of months ago on a different matter and he told me that we 
were too far from the nearest junction even for ASDL. It's a blessing and a 
curse to live this far out in the sticks. Oh yeah ..... don't laugh we just 
got off party line a little over five years ago.

Jim ;-(

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"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> Hola,
>
> Has anyone had any experience with Ubuntu's version of Linux? Kind of had
it
> MS and all those freekin' butches that end up breaking more than they fix.
> So I've decided to look start looking for alternatives. I came across
Ubuntu
> while reading an article .... hey they price is right (free .... open
> source).... they even picked up the postage for the install CD's. Anyway
> .... if anyone has comments .... war stories .... whatever. I'd appreciate
> it.
>
> Ciao Jim
>
>

Yes. Ubuntu is great. I've been running it for maybe 1.5 years now. Before
that I was switching a bit looking for a good x86_64 distribution and this
ended up being the best at the time. Ubuntu has the only software/package
manager that I've prefered to use over compiling my own stuff. All others
seemed to break at some point, but Synaptic (layered on top of apt) handles
everything nicely.

As far as the Ubuntu/Kubuntu thing, it's a matter of which is default (Gnome
or KDE). You can still have both installed and run applications designed for
either. At some point in the past 4 months I dropped both and was using
Enlightenment 17-alpha (for alpha level software it never crashed once). I
recently switched back to Gnome for minor aesthetic reasons.

On a side note, I also started using GnuCash and the OpenOffice spreadsheet.
Both work quite nicely.

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"Ross" <rli### [at] speakeasynet> wrote in message 
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> On a side note, I also started using GnuCash and the OpenOffice 
> spreadsheet.
> Both work quite nicely.

ah ... good to hear .... once up and running I'll need to migrate from 
excel/access/money .... yep I bought into the MS thing hook, line and 
sinker. good feedback ..... Thanks

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On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:28:58 -0300, Jim Holsenback wrote:

> 
> "Ross" <rli### [at] speakeasynet> wrote in message
> news:462e2346$1@news.povray.org...
>> On a side note, I also started using GnuCash and the OpenOffice
>> spreadsheet.
>> Both work quite nicely.
> 
> ah ... good to hear .... once up and running I'll need to migrate from
> excel/access/money .... yep I bought into the MS thing hook, line and
> sinker. good feedback ..... Thanks

I've only been using OpenOffice for nearly 2 years now - I have an MSDN
subscription and had Excel installed under Crossover Office for a short
period of time, but everything I do now is in OpenOffice 2.

The only things I use Windows for any more are running Moray, occasional
things where I absolutely must use IE for something (like apparently
applying for an Amex card - if you use FF, at least in my experience, you
fill out the online application and it says "sorry, we can't contact our
backend systems", but if you use IE it works *every time*.  Go figure),
and ATM also using the Blackberry Desktop since there's no Linux
equivalent - but once I'm on our BES at work, I can ditch the desktop as
well.

Jim

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> My povray setup involves typing the scenes in vi (syntax highlight, word
> completion, keyboard macros etc) and calling my custom povscript from the
> shell to render the scene.  Fast and lean...
>
> It's a good alternative to get away from the M$ blackhole.

Indeed.

I just scrubbed Vista off what was my M$ Slutbox, and installed Fiesty Fawn.
I'm still looking for a solution for my PCB and Schematic tools which run
under dos, but other than that, I like it.

I subscribe to the MAP program, so I get MS office, OS, and server products
for "free", and I still don't think they are worth using.  That should tell
you something.   Vista was about the most unimpressive "upgrade" I've ever
seen.
Move 11G between two fast hard drives, would you believe SEVEN HOURS?

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On Mon, 07 May 2007 18:17:33 -0400, Dave VanHorn wrote:

> 
>> My povray setup involves typing the scenes in vi (syntax highlight, word
>> completion, keyboard macros etc) and calling my custom povscript from
>> the shell to render the scene.  Fast and lean...
>>
>> It's a good alternative to get away from the M$ blackhole.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> I just scrubbed Vista off what was my M$ Slutbox, and installed Fiesty
> Fawn. I'm still looking for a solution for my PCB and Schematic tools
> which run under dos, but other than that, I like it.

Try DOSBox - that may do what you need.  Otherwise, VMware or another
virtualized environment should work for you unless there are custom
hardware hookups involved.

> I subscribe to the MAP program, so I get MS office, OS, and server
> products for "free", and I still don't think they are worth using.  That
> should tell you something.   Vista was about the most unimpressive
> "upgrade" I've ever seen.
> Move 11G between two fast hard drives, would you believe SEVEN HOURS?

Hehehehe, I have a subscription to MSDN, and VMs for Windows 2000 and XP
for some work-related stuff, Moray, and the Blackberry Desktop software
(which is mostly obsoleted now that I've got an account on our BES at
work) and am even named as one of the technical contacts on the company
contract, apparently - but I use the stuff so rarely any more that I'm
considering having them drop my subscription.

Jim

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Le 05/08/07 00:17, Dave VanHorn nous fit lire :
>> My povray setup involves typing the scenes in vi (syntax highlight, word
>> completion, keyboard macros etc) and calling my custom povscript from the
>> shell to render the scene.  Fast and lean...
>>
>> It's a good alternative to get away from the M$ blackhole.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> I just scrubbed Vista off what was my M$ Slutbox, and installed Fiesty Fawn.
> I'm still looking for a solution for my PCB and Schematic tools which run
> under dos, but other than that, I like it.

What about magic:
http://www.opencircuitdesign.com/magic/index.html

> 
> I subscribe to the MAP program, so I get MS office, OS, and server products
> for "free", and I still don't think they are worth using.  That should tell
> you something.   Vista was about the most unimpressive "upgrade" I've ever
> seen.
> Move 11G between two fast hard drives, would you believe SEVEN HOURS?

Well, that's about 440 kbytes per second... someone using an
ethernet drive on a old 10Mbits network ?
Looks like a bit of a bottleneck anyway!



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the inferior man understands what will sell.
-- Confucius

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> Hola,
>
> Has anyone had any experience with Ubuntu's version of Linux?

This post was a while ago, but FWIW POVray 3.5 is available as an Ubuntu
package. I got mine off of a DVD collection, but it should be in most
repositories, under graphics/multiverse or multiverse/graphics.

3.5 is missing some cool textures like cork, but it should generally be
fine.

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