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From: Sebastian Holtermann
Subject: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 27 Aug 2001 17:38:20
Message: <3b8abdcc@news.povray.org>
Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5? 
(Maybe Gtk/Qt/etc.)
-- 
Sebastian H.


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 27 Aug 2001 18:36:46
Message: <kdilotkdps1e9h03uepmq8e8pkjkpm5q22@4ax.com>
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:38:08 +0200, Sebastian Holtermann
<Van### [at] gmxde> wrote:

>Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5? 
>(Maybe Gtk/Qt/etc.)

Which one? :) How about Athena (!) or Motif? Maybe Xaw3d?

Seriously now, there is no Unix GUI planned that I know of. However,
with a decent editor (Vim, Emacs) things get really easy. There are
both Emacs modes and Vim syntax files for POV and MegaPOV which can be
adjusted for 3.5 by anyone who knows how to do it, then share it with
the rest of the gang.

Me, I'm using Vim with a POV syntax file Ingo sent me and it is a
charm. With proper shortcut configuration it can work quite well.
Emacs is even better in that regard but personally, I don't eat Emacs.

the baseline is, once it's out, the Unix folk among POVers will come
up with something useful. That's the spirit :)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 27 Aug 2001 18:54:52
Message: <3b8acfbb@news.povray.org>
Sebastian Holtermann <Van### [at] gmxde> wrote:
: Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5? 

  Why make a GUI nobody will use anyways? (I wouldn't certainly use it unless
it had all the features emacs has; and if it had, how would it be different
from emacs anyways? A couple of buttons... Big deal.)

  And see: http://www.students.tut.fi/~warp/povVFAQ/miscVFAQ.html#guiforunix

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Daniel Matthews
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 27 Aug 2001 21:54:27
Message: <1048538.uN5g19fmA1@3-e.net>
What about an add-on to JEdit, being cross platform helps too.
http://www.jedit.org/

I was VERY impressed with this editor, if you try it out don't forget to 
have it auto download and install all the available plugins.

It is a very WinPOV like in some ways, but better as an editor.
Line numbers, folding etc...

Warp wrote:

> Sebastian Holtermann <Van### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> : Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5?
> 
>   Why make a GUI nobody will use anyways? (I wouldn't certainly use it
>   unless
> it had all the features emacs has; and if it had, how would it be
> different from emacs anyways? A couple of buttons... Big deal.)
> 
>   And see:
>   http://www.students.tut.fi/~warp/povVFAQ/miscVFAQ.html#guiforunix
>


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 28 Aug 2001 06:53:54
Message: <3b8b7842@news.povray.org>
Daniel Matthews <lig### [at] bigpondnetau> wrote:
: What about an add-on to JEdit

  Feel free to make one.

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 28 Aug 2001 08:08:23
Message: <3B8B89B5.98B5F29B@ignorancia.org>

> 
> Sebastian Holtermann <Van### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> : Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5?
> 
>   Why make a GUI nobody will use anyways? (I wouldn't certainly use it unless
> it had all the features emacs has; and if it had, how would it be different
> from emacs anyways? A couple of buttons... Big deal.)

  Well, I'm even more rustic, and simply use the same window manager as
GUI, typing the command line on a terminal window. But there is
something on the windows GUI that not even Emacs can give you: partial
rendering of a selected region on the last output window. That's, for
me, the only useful missing feature... unless you have a special talent
for figuring out +sc, +ec, +sr and +er percentages quickly (which seems
I'm slowly developing).

-- 
Jaime Vives Piqueres

La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org/


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 28 Aug 2001 08:41:49
Message: <3b8b918c@news.povray.org>
Jaime Vives Piqueres <jai### [at] ignoranciaorg> wrote:
: unless you have a special talent
: for figuring out +sc, +ec, +sr and +er percentages quickly (which seems
: I'm slowly developing).

  Of course that's one of the nice features WinPOV has.
  But as you said, you can learn to use the command line parameters without
too much trouble. They are specially easier to use with the percentage form
(ie. +sr.5 +er.8 etc).

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Adrien Beau
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 28 Aug 2001 08:58:00
Message: <3B8B9562.5C84647F@sycomore.fr>
Warp wrote:
> 
> Jaime Vives Piqueres <jai### [at] ignoranciaorg> wrote:
> : unless you have a special talent
> : for figuring out +sc, +ec, +sr and +er percentages quickly (which seems
> : I'm slowly developing).
> 
>   Of course that's one of the nice features WinPOV has.
>   But as you said, you can learn to use the command line parameters without
> too much trouble. They are specially easier to use with the percentage form
> (ie. +sr.5 +er.8 etc).

And perhaps a so-small addition to the X display of the image
while it renders (and once it is finished) would be to output
the coordinates of any user-selected region on stdout or
something similar.

Then all Unix users would be all happy to feed the coordinates
into a script of their own in order to re-render that part
of the image. And even zooming on it, who knows?

-- 
Adrien Beau - adr### [at] freefr - http://adrien.beau.free.fr
 Mes propos n'engagent que moi et en aucun cas mes employeurs


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 28 Aug 2001 13:52:37
Message: <slrn9omr3i.vch.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:54:04 +1000, Daniel Matthews wrote:

>It is a very WinPOV like in some ways, but better as an editor.
>Line numbers, folding etc...

You get that in emacs, and emacs is cross platform too. 

--
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From: Daniel Matthews
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 28 Aug 2001 19:21:05
Message: <3917175.L8zNpBrTj2@3-e.net>
Was playing with it yesterday and found it has a POV mode for syntax 
highlighting! Must find author of mode....

Warp wrote:

> Daniel Matthews <lig### [at] bigpondnetau> wrote:
> : What about an add-on to JEdit
> 
>   Feel free to make one.
>


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