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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Plump Ken
Date: 24 Jun 2007 03:27:19
Message: <467e1cd7$1@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> schreef in bericht 
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>
> My last spate of downloading has left me really disorganised and it won't 
> get
> better if I put it off. I hate housecleaning. At least you've given me a 
> new toy
> to play with :-)
>

The only cases where this does not work (as far as I can tell) is when the 
download is already baked into an install .exe. This is often the case for 
Daz downloads. Then you can only install into the proper Poser application.

Good luck, Stephen!

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Plump Ken
Date: 24 Jun 2007 04:47:17
Message: <r5fs73hseomfkrhu1gv7r3ld48sot5dac7@4ax.com>
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:27:20 +0200, "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet>
wrote:

>Good luck, Stephen!

It is not just luck I'll need, it's also application. This will be a largish job
and I promise that I'll do it as soon as I finish this scene. Just one more
chapter and I'll put the light out Mum :-) 

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Janet
Subject: Re: Plump Ken
Date: 25 Jun 2007 23:50:01
Message: <web.46808c9f3b48260f2383e1e30@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:27:20 +0200, "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet>
> wrote:
>
> >Good luck, Stephen!
>
> It is not just luck I'll need, it's also application. This will be a largish job
> and I promise that I'll do it as soon as I finish this scene. Just one more
> chapter and I'll put the light out Mum :-)
>
> Regards
>  Stephen

I used to have all my Poser stuff in one runtime libaray. It was a big mess.
And Poser was taking a long time to load. When I got a new computer, I took
a better approach. Since most of my Poser stuff is downloaded, I found it
easiest to just reinstall (for DAZ stuff) or unzip (for other stuff) into
new runtimes that were categorized. Similar to Thomas, a runtime for
animals, etc. I wouldn't attempt to do this by moving files around. It'll
take forever, and will be error prone. So, if you still have your downloads
stashed somewhere, use them. The DAZ installers let you choose a destination
directory, so its not a problem.

Cheers, Janet


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Plump Ken
Date: 26 Jun 2007 03:46:57
Message: <4680c471@news.povray.org>
"Janet" <par### [at] attnet> schreef in bericht 
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>
> .... The DAZ installers let you choose a destination
> directory, so its not a problem.
>

Oh, that is good news! From their installer I got the impression that you 
could only install in the main Runtime of Poser or D|S, not in an external 
Runtime! Thank you!

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Plump Ken
Date: 26 Jun 2007 04:20:01
Message: <web.4680cb903b48260fc4e49fa40@news.povray.org>
"Janet" <par### [at] attnet> wrote:

> I used to have all my Poser stuff in one runtime libaray. It was a big mess.
> And Poser was taking a long time to load.



>When I got a new computer, I took
> a better approach. Since most of my Poser stuff is downloaded, I found it
> easiest to just reinstall (for DAZ stuff) or unzip (for other stuff) into
> new runtimes that were categorized. Similar to Thomas, a runtime for
> animals, etc. I wouldn't attempt to do this by moving files around.

Funnily enough, neither would I :-)

>So, if you still have your downloads
> stashed somewhere, use them. The DAZ installers let you choose a destination
> directory, so its not a problem.

After reading about this option I have decided to uninstall Poser, move all
my work files, and delete all the addins. Then I will reinstall Poser and
organise the downloads as you and Thomas have suggested.

current workflow, as my main objective is working with Bishop3D, a new
modeller. The excursion into Poser is to create actors for a scene. I
recently downloaded a lot of free clothes and figures and my Runtime
directory structure is a mess. Clothes mixed with figures and props. I know


Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Plump Ken
Date: 17 Dec 2007 06:20:41
Message: <5smcm3dobibfcma0i84f58s3oaf997rbtr@4ax.com>
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:49:37 EDT, "Janet" <par### [at] attnet> wrote:

>I used to have all my Poser stuff in one runtime libaray. It was a big mess.
>And Poser was taking a long time to load. When I got a new computer, I took
>a better approach. Since most of my Poser stuff is downloaded, I found it
>easiest to just reinstall (for DAZ stuff) or unzip (for other stuff) into
>new runtimes that were categorized. Similar to Thomas, a runtime for
>animals, etc. I wouldn't attempt to do this by moving files around. It'll
>take forever, and will be error prone. So, if you still have your downloads
>stashed somewhere, use them. The DAZ installers let you choose a destination
>directory, so its not a problem.
>
>Cheers, Janet

Do you (or anyone) have advice on how to build the directory structure?
I've just upgraded to Poser 7 and starting afresh - finally :)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Plump Ken
Date: 11 Jan 2008 03:26:32
Message: <47872838$1@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> schreef in bericht 
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> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:49:37 EDT, "Janet" <par### [at] attnet> wrote:
>
>>I used to have all my Poser stuff in one runtime libaray. It was a big 
>>mess.
>>And Poser was taking a long time to load. When I got a new computer, I 
>>took
>>a better approach. Since most of my Poser stuff is downloaded, I found it
>>easiest to just reinstall (for DAZ stuff) or unzip (for other stuff) into
>>new runtimes that were categorized. Similar to Thomas, a runtime for
>>animals, etc. I wouldn't attempt to do this by moving files around. It'll
>>take forever, and will be error prone. So, if you still have your 
>>downloads
>>stashed somewhere, use them. The DAZ installers let you choose a 
>>destination
>>directory, so its not a problem.
>>
>>Cheers, Janet
>
> Do you (or anyone) have advice on how to build the directory structure?
> I've just upgraded to Poser 7 and starting afresh - finally :)
>


Just back in business again (took somewhat longer than expected to be online 
once more...).

Stephen, except for the runtime directories which are generated from the 
downloads and which I should not meddle with, everything else (above the 
runtime level that is) is up to you. It means that you can have several 
different runtimes in different directories. For instance, in a directory 
'Figures' you could generate a sub-directory 'Apollo', another 'Animals', or 
yet another 'Aliens', etc. The same for hair, or props. Each sub-directory 
would contain a runtime in which the downloads would write their specific 
stuff, or where you can write your own creations in Poser. Hm, not sure if I 
made myself clear...

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Plump Ken
Date: 11 Jan 2008 05:26:24
Message: <e1heo3hc8s2b4ioa07r2io0c1olb2pratd@4ax.com>
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:26:33 +0100, "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet>
wrote:

>
>Just back in business again (took somewhat longer than expected to be online 
>once more...).
>
>Stephen, except for the runtime directories which are generated from the 
>downloads and which I should not meddle with, everything else (above the 
>runtime level that is) is up to you. It means that you can have several 
>different runtimes in different directories. For instance, in a directory 
>'Figures' you could generate a sub-directory 'Apollo', another 'Animals', or 
>yet another 'Aliens', etc. The same for hair, or props. Each sub-directory 
>would contain a runtime in which the downloads would write their specific 
>stuff, or where you can write your own creations in Poser. Hm, not sure if I 
>made myself clear...
>
>Thomas

Hi Thomas, I hope that your move was not too traumatic. 
I tried a slightly different method from you and maybe from Janet. I created a
separate directory for each figure and installed the downloads in there with
their runtime structure. That way I have all the clothes, props and materials
etc. for that figure in one library. I was going to report back on how that
worked but I've developed an aversion to using my laptop due to the noise of the
fans. Oh! Dear, more expense and I've finished my contract at Philips.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Plump Ken
Date: 12 Jan 2008 08:51:10
Message: <4788c5ce$1@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> schreef in bericht 
news:e1heo3hc8s2b4ioa07r2io0c1olb2pratd@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:26:33 +0100, "Thomas de Groot" 
> <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Thomas, I hope that your move was not too traumatic.
It went rather smoothly to tell the truth, although the week before and the 
week after the move were the most hectic and tiring. Won't do that too often 
:-) But everything is fine now and we are enjoying ourselves.

> I tried a slightly different method from you and maybe from Janet. I 
> created a
> separate directory for each figure and installed the downloads in there 
> with
> their runtime structure. That way I have all the clothes, props and 
> materials
> etc. for that figure in one library. I was going to report back on how 
> that
> worked but I've developed an aversion to using my laptop due to the noise 
> of the
> fans. Oh! Dear, more expense and I've finished my contract at Philips.

Yes, that is a good way to tackle things too I guess. Most important is that 
it works for your specific case and workflow.
I agree about laptops. The noise is often irritating indeed.

Any plans after Philips?

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Plump Ken
Date: 12 Jan 2008 11:07:55
Message: <i2pho3tsmqcvrem08opo6b9jk7h9n5atbi@4ax.com>
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:51:11 +0100, "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet>
wrote:


>> Hi Thomas, I hope that your move was not too traumatic.
>It went rather smoothly to tell the truth, although the week before and the 
>week after the move were the most hectic and tiring. Won't do that too often 
>:-) But everything is fine now and we are enjoying ourselves.
>

That's good, I'm pleased.

>
>Yes, that is a good way to tackle things too I guess. Most important is that 
>it works for your specific case and workflow.

I'l try it and see, it might take a year or so but I report back

>I agree about laptops. The noise is often irritating indeed.

I'm using my noise reduction headphones, I hope that helps.

>Any plans after Philips?

The only two jobs I've applied for to date, are in the Netherlands. One in
Maastricht the other in Geleen in the South East.

Regards
	Stephen


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