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From: Wizard
Subject: Povray improvement !!!
Date: 29 Apr 2008 18:20:00
Message: <web.48179e3c1f75f4ab375579a60@news.povray.org>
Povray is Great !!!! Fantastic !!! Increadible !!!! Simply suberb... But I
think Povray could be much amd much better !!!! Much more as it is now !... I
think Povray could be as Apache Web server. By Carefully inspecting povray
souce code I could notice that basically consists even and even again about the
same core code..... So Povray can be programmed as Apache Web Server to accept
changes and add functionality by adding modules..... The main code (opensource
sure !!!) could be maintained by a team of developers and accepting
functionality changes keeping control and knowledge of what is had being
developed around the world..... By adding functionality by adding modules would
be tremendous easy to povray code grow and became more and more powerfull
without rewrite it .....But I don't know yet if it would need a complete
rewrite of the entire or partially the source code  . It could take months and
a lot of programmers to do it!!!!.. But wouldn't worth all the job to do it
?!?!?!? Think Everybody about this..... Ah! I have been testing povray with
Openmosix.... It works But it is deceptive slow....This sometimes makes me
angry because I expected a much fast rendering but in case my system things
occurs the opposite..... Anybody have any hint??? Any clue ???. I tried making
a little change in code, but didn't worked !!!! I am thinking about to prey to
God to get help !!!!!!! Please I need Help !!!!!


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Povray improvement !!!
Date: 30 Apr 2008 03:43:06
Message: <4818230a@news.povray.org>
Wizard wrote:
>  Povray is Great !!!! Fantastic !!! Increadible !!!! Simply suberb... But I
> think Povray could be much amd much better !!!! Much more as it is now !... I
> think Povray could be as Apache Web server. By Carefully inspecting povray
> souce code I could notice that basically consists even and even again about the
> same core code..... So Povray can be programmed as Apache Web Server to accept
> changes and add functionality by adding modules..... The main code (opensource
> sure !!!) could be maintained by a team of developers and accepting
> functionality changes keeping control and knowledge of what is had being
> developed around the world..... By adding functionality by adding modules would
> be tremendous easy to povray code grow and became more and more powerfull
> without rewrite it .....But I don't know yet if it would need a complete
> rewrite of the entire or partially the source code  . It could take months and
> a lot of programmers to do it!!!!.. But wouldn't worth all the job to do it
> ?!?!?!? Think Everybody about this..... Ah! I have been testing povray with
> Openmosix.... It works But it is deceptive slow....This sometimes makes me
> angry because I expected a much fast rendering but in case my system things
> occurs the opposite..... Anybody have any hint??? Any clue ???. I tried making
> a little change in code, but didn't worked !!!! I am thinking about to prey to
> God to get help !!!!!!! Please I need Help !!!!!

Did you ever consider that writing in a coherent manner could actually 
motivate people to read your post???

	Thorsten, POV-Team


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From: Wizard
Subject: Re: Povray improvement !!!
Date: 30 Apr 2008 13:25:00
Message: <web.4818aaa8be29fef3375579a60@news.povray.org>
Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
> Wizard wrote:
> >  Povray is Great !!!! Fantastic !!! Increadible !!!! Simply suberb... But I
> > think Povray could be much amd much better !!!! Much more as it is now !... I
> > think Povray could be as Apache Web server. By Carefully inspecting povray
> > souce code I could notice that basically consists even and even again about the
> > same core code..... So Povray can be programmed as Apache Web Server to accept
> > changes and add functionality by adding modules..... The main code (opensource
> > sure !!!) could be maintained by a team of developers and accepting
> > functionality changes keeping control and knowledge of what is had being
> > developed around the world..... By adding functionality by adding modules would
> > be tremendous easy to povray code grow and became more and more powerfull
> > without rewrite it .....But I don't know yet if it would need a complete
> > rewrite of the entire or partially the source code  . It could take months and
> > a lot of programmers to do it!!!!.. But wouldn't worth all the job to do it
> > ?!?!?!? Think Everybody about this..... Ah! I have been testing povray with
> > Openmosix.... It works But it is deceptive slow....This sometimes makes me
> > angry because I expected a much fast rendering but in case my system things
> > occurs the opposite..... Anybody have any hint??? Any clue ???. I tried making
> > a little change in code, but didn't worked !!!! I am thinking about to prey to
> > God to get help !!!!!!! Please I need Help !!!!!
>
> Did you ever consider that writing in a coherent manner could actually
> motivate people to read your post???
>
>  Thorsten, POV-Team

 Thanks !!
   Mr Thorsten,
   Yes, You are absolutely correct ! This is not the most coherent manner to
motivate people to read my post. But, please, tell me how I could motivate
people to read my posts ?.... In my humble opnion add functionality by module
inserting is very important.... !. Please tell me how ...... Regards !!!


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Povray improvement !!!
Date: 30 Apr 2008 13:31:01
Message: <4818acd5@news.povray.org>

>  Thanks !!
>    Mr Thorsten,
>    Yes, You are absolutely correct ! This is not the most coherent manner to
> motivate people to read my post. But, please, tell me how I could motivate
> people to read my posts ?.... In my humble opnion add functionality by module
> inserting is very important.... !. Please tell me how ...... Regards !!!

Writing coherently is something you should be taught at school ;)


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Povray improvement !!!
Date: 30 Apr 2008 22:54:13
Message: <481930d5@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:30:56 -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> Wizard escribió:
>>  Thanks !!
>>    Mr Thorsten,
>>    Yes, You are absolutely correct ! This is not the most coherent
>>    manner to
>> motivate people to read my post. But, please, tell me how I could
>> motivate people to read my posts ?.... In my humble opnion add
>> functionality by module inserting is very important.... !. Please tell
>> me how ...... Regards !!!
> 
> Writing coherently is something you should be taught at school ;)

Unless English is not a language that Wizard knows well.

Best advise I can offer, Wizard, is to write your points out separately. 
A few sentences for each point explaining what you think would be the 
benefit of adding the functionality you suggest. Questions about how it 
could be done would be good if you just wanted to learn about it, but are 
probably best left for a separate discussion from suggestions.

Fewer punctuation marks would make your text more readable, as well. 
There is no need for multiple exclamation points, or a period following a 
question mark. And the ellipsis marks, '...', are not helpful. They read 
as though you have left the sentence unfinished.

And, if English is not one of your primary languages, Wizard, perhaps you 
could let that be known. Someone might be able to help translate, if that 
is the case.


Followup set to povray.off-topic, in case anyone wants to add helpful 
posting rules.


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From: Wizard
Subject: Re: Povray improvement !!!
Date: 1 May 2008 01:35:01
Message: <web.48195481be29fef3375579a60@news.povray.org>
Sabrina Kilian <ykg### [at] SUCKSvtedu> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:30:56 -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>
> > Wizard escribió:
> >>  Thanks !!
> >>    Mr Thorsten,
> >>    Yes, You are absolutely correct ! This is not the most coherent
> >>    manner to
> >> motivate people to read my post. But, please, tell me how I could
> >> motivate people to read my posts ?.... In my humble opnion add
> >> functionality by module inserting is very important.... !. Please tell
> >> me how ...... Regards !!!
> >
> > Writing coherently is something you should be taught at school ;)
>
> Unless English is not a language that Wizard knows well.
>
> Best advise I can offer, Wizard, is to write your points out separately.
> A few sentences for each point explaining what you think would be the
> benefit of adding the functionality you suggest. Questions about how it
> could be done would be good if you just wanted to learn about it, but are
> probably best left for a separate discussion from suggestions.
>
> Fewer punctuation marks would make your text more readable, as well.
> There is no need for multiple exclamation points, or a period following a
> question mark. And the ellipsis marks, '...', are not helpful. They read
> as though you have left the sentence unfinished.
>
> And, if English is not one of your primary languages, Wizard, perhaps you
> could let that be known. Someone might be able to help translate, if that
> is the case.
>
>
> Followup set to povray.off-topic, in case anyone wants to add helpful
> posting rules.

   You got it!
   my native language is not English. Just in time ! I just finished building:
   libbase.so.1.0, libfrontend.so.1.0 and libpovray.so.1.0 and installed all
   then in /usr/src/povray-3.6.1/lib. Suggestions about a new place? Fine tuning
   to produce a shared object library is Fun!.


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From: Wizard
Subject: Re: Povray improvement !!!
Date: 1 May 2008 01:35:01
Message: <web.481955ffbe29fef3375579a60@news.povray.org>
Sabrina Kilian <ykg### [at] SUCKSvtedu> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:30:56 -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>
> > Wizard escribió:
> >>  Thanks !!
> >>    Mr Thorsten,
> >>    Yes, You are absolutely correct ! This is not the most coherent
> >>    manner to
> >> motivate people to read my post. But, please, tell me how I could
> >> motivate people to read my posts ?.... In my humble opnion add
> >> functionality by module inserting is very important.... !. Please tell
> >> me how ...... Regards !!!
> >
> > Writing coherently is something you should be taught at school ;)
>
> Unless English is not a language that Wizard knows well.
>
> Best advise I can offer, Wizard, is to write your points out separately.
> A few sentences for each point explaining what you think would be the
> benefit of adding the functionality you suggest. Questions about how it
> could be done would be good if you just wanted to learn about it, but are
> probably best left for a separate discussion from suggestions.
>
> Fewer punctuation marks would make your text more readable, as well.
> There is no need for multiple exclamation points, or a period following a
> question mark. And the ellipsis marks, '...', are not helpful. They read
> as though you have left the sentence unfinished.
>
> And, if English is not one of your primary languages, Wizard, perhaps you
> could let that be known. Someone might be able to help translate, if that
> is the case.
>
>
> Followup set to povray.off-topic, in case anyone wants to add helpful
> posting rules.
   Thanks Sabrina ! Like your help! My native language isn't english.


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From: Wizard
Subject: Re: Povray improvement !!!
Date: 1 May 2008 03:10:03
Message: <web.48196c71be29fef3375579a60@news.povray.org>
"Wizard" <Wizard> wrote:
> Sabrina Kilian <ykg### [at] SUCKSvtedu> wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:30:56 -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> >
> > > Wizard escribió:
> > >>  Thanks !!
> > >>    Mr Thorsten,
> > >>    Yes, You are absolutely correct ! This is not the most coherent
> > >>    manner to
> > >> motivate people to read my post. But, please, tell me how I could
> > >> motivate people to read my posts ?.... In my humble opnion add
> > >> functionality by module inserting is very important.... !. Please tell
> > >> me how ...... Regards !!!
> > >
> > > Writing coherently is something you should be taught at school ;)
> >
> > Unless English is not a language that Wizard knows well.
> >
> > Best advise I can offer, Wizard, is to write your points out separately.
> > A few sentences for each point explaining what you think would be the
> > benefit of adding the functionality you suggest. Questions about how it
> > could be done would be good if you just wanted to learn about it, but are
> > probably best left for a separate discussion from suggestions.
> >
> > Fewer punctuation marks would make your text more readable, as well.
> > There is no need for multiple exclamation points, or a period following a
> > question mark. And the ellipsis marks, '...', are not helpful. They read
> > as though you have left the sentence unfinished.
> >
> > And, if English is not one of your primary languages, Wizard, perhaps you
> > could let that be known. Someone might be able to help translate, if that
> > is the case.
> >
> >
> > Followup set to povray.off-topic, in case anyone wants to add helpful
> > posting rules.
>
>    You got it!
>    my native language is not English. Just in time ! I just finished building:
>    libbase.so.1.0, libfrontend.so.1.0 and libpovray.so.1.0 and installed all
>    then in /usr/src/povray-3.6.1/lib. Suggestions about a new place? Fine tuning
>    to produce a shared object library is Fun!.

   Ok! did it ! I builded a very tiny povray executable: 91371 byte. Statically
compiled it have 1765509 bytes. Almost a 20 fold decrease in size. Let's got
better. And it works fine ;)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Povray improvement !!!
Date: 1 May 2008 03:32:26
Message: <4819720a@news.povray.org>
Wizard <Wizard> wrote:
> > Unless English is not a language that Wizard knows well.
> >
> > Best advise I can offer, Wizard, is to write your points out separately.
> > A few sentences for each point explaining what you think would be the
> > benefit of adding the functionality you suggest. Questions about how it
> > could be done would be good if you just wanted to learn about it, but are
> > probably best left for a separate discussion from suggestions.
> >
> > Fewer punctuation marks would make your text more readable, as well.
> > There is no need for multiple exclamation points, or a period following a
> > question mark. And the ellipsis marks, '...', are not helpful. They read
> > as though you have left the sentence unfinished.
> >
> > And, if English is not one of your primary languages, Wizard, perhaps you
> > could let that be known. Someone might be able to help translate, if that
> > is the case.
> >

>    You got it!
>    my native language is not English.

  Exactly in which language is it customary to write everything in one
single paragraph and overusing ellipsis and question marks?

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Wizard
Subject: Re: Povray improvement !!!
Date: 1 May 2008 16:00:00
Message: <web.481a20e6be29fef3375579a60@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Wizard <Wizard> wrote:
> > > Unless English is not a language that Wizard knows well.
> > >
> > > Best advise I can offer, Wizard, is to write your points out separately.
> > > A few sentences for each point explaining what you think would be the
> > > benefit of adding the functionality you suggest. Questions about how it
> > > could be done would be good if you just wanted to learn about it, but are
> > > probably best left for a separate discussion from suggestions.
> > >
> > > Fewer punctuation marks would make your text more readable, as well.
> > > There is no need for multiple exclamation points, or a period following a
> > > question mark. And the ellipsis marks, '...', are not helpful. They read
> > > as though you have left the sentence unfinished.
> > >
> > > And, if English is not one of your primary languages, Wizard, perhaps you
> > > could let that be known. Someone might be able to help translate, if that
> > > is the case.
> > >
>
> >    You got it!
> >    my native language is not English.
>
>   Exactly in which language is it customary to write everything in one
> single paragraph and overusing ellipsis and question marks?
>
> --
>                                                           - Warp

   Portuguese to be more exactly !. We brazilians love to make a lot of
puctuations and transmit much as possible emotions. If you have opportunity
read a text in a brazilian book, you gonna see it !(in portuguese). As You
know, in spanish grammar you punctuate the double. At beginning and at end. And
living in Japan makes things more interesting.
   The only one single paragraph is because I wrote that just as things came
out. I had been awake for 3 three days straight. Only taking very short naps
while gcc were working hard to build executables. I was so tired that I
couldn't  stay awake to read most of the gcc outputs. I am fine now. I slept
some hours.
   Now in Japan is "Golden Week" if you don't know. A 10 day holiday for most of
us. It will finish day 5.

                                                           - Wizard


  I going to put here one message that I received by one girl in march: (in
portuguese)to let you see it:(sic - in word by word)

             Ola!!!!!!!!!!!!Passando pra te desejar um

             MUITOS ANOS DE VIDA!!!

             MUITO SUCESSO!!!


             translation:
             Hi!!!!!!!!! I come here to wish you a
             HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
             I WISH YOU MANY YEARS OF LIFE!!!
             PEACE AND A LOT OF HEALTH!!!
             SUCESS!!!
             A BIG KISS TO YOU

   This could answer your question.
   Any of you have orkut?. If have tell me. Will be fine to add you!.


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