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From: Fredrik Eriksson
Subject: Re: For those who love SF
Date: 6 Oct 2009 09:06:00
Message: <op.u1dqoab37bxctx@e6600>
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:45:37 +0200, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:07:17 +0200, clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg>  
> wrote:
>
>> LeChuck's Revenge style, huh?
>
> Whoosh! That goes right over my head, even using google.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Island_2:_LeChuck's_Revenge#Story



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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: For those who love SF
Date: 6 Oct 2009 12:29:40
Message: <83smc55im69es4hifjqakdvac6p9u9j4he@4ax.com>
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:05:51 +0200, "Fredrik Eriksson"
<fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote:

>> Whoosh! That goes right over my head, even using google.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Island_2:_LeChuck's_Revenge#Story

I didn't have the endurance to read the Wiki article properly :)
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From: clipka
Subject: Re: For those who love SF
Date: 6 Oct 2009 15:43:24
Message: <4acb9ddc$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen schrieb:

>>> Whoosh! That goes right over my head, even using google.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Island_2:_LeChuck's_Revenge#Story
> 
> I didn't have the endurance to read the Wiki article properly :)

Heh - that's a thing you gotta /remember/, not google up :-P

(Or you have missed a milestone of point-&-click adventures.)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: For those who love SF
Date: 6 Oct 2009 15:49:06
Message: <9i7nc51f0fl2mfmcgqnr0q1e3ma95jv2bs@4ax.com>
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:43:05 +0200, clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:

>Stephen schrieb:
>
>>>> Whoosh! That goes right over my head, even using google.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Island_2:_LeChuck's_Revenge#Story
>> 
>> I didn't have the endurance to read the Wiki article properly :)
>
>Heh - that's a thing you gotta /remember/, not google up :-P
>
>(Or you have missed a milestone of point-&-click adventures.)

Yup! I'm so bad at games I still cheat at solitaire :-)
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From: Shay
Subject: Re: For those who love SF
Date: 23 Oct 2009 09:36:28
Message: <4ae1b15c$1@news.povray.org>
Carlo C. wrote:
> A incipit from "THE STATUS CIVILIZATION", by Robert Sheckley
> 
> "
> His return to consciousness was a slow and painful process. It was a journey in
> which he traversed all time. He dreamed. He rose through thick layers of sleep,
> out of the imaginary beginnings of all things. He lifted a pseudopod from
> primordial ooze, and the pseudopod was him. He became an amoeba which contained
> his essence; then a fish marked with his own peculiar individuality; then an ape
> unlike all other apes. And finally, he became a man.
> [...]
> "
> 
> link:
> http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/20919
> 

OK, what is a reader meant to take from this? I'm trying to "get" other 
types of writing. Here are some examples of writing I do "get":

------------------------------------------------------------

"What of it, if some old hunks of a sea-captain orders me to get a broom 
and sweep down the decks? What does that indignity amount to, weighed, I 
mean, in the scales of the New Testament? Do you think the archangel 
Gabriel thinks anything the less of me, because I promptly and 
respectfully obey that old hunks in that particular instance? Who ain't 
a slave? Tell me that. Well, then, however the old sea-captains may 
order me about- however they may thump and punch me about, I have the 
satisfaction of knowing that it is all right; that everybody else is one 
way or other served in much the same way- either in a physical or 
metaphysical point of view, that is; and so the universal thump is 
passed round, and all hands should rub each other's shoulder-blades, and 
be content."

Having read that, I'm sure you'll reference it at some point in the 
future. It's very universal, I think.

------------------------------------------------------------

Here's another. I left work after a twelve hour day of manual labor in 
the desert summer and drove to a swimming hole in Balmorhea, TX. I swam 
out through the cold water to a ruined boat lift and dove off several 
times. As I did, I strongly recalled the following:

"I waded out. The water was cold. As a roller came I dove, swam out 
under water, and came to the surface with all the chill gone. I swam out 
to the raft, pulled myself up, and lay on the hot planks. ... I lay on 
the raft in the sun until I was dry. Then I tried several dives. I dove 
deep once, swimming down to the bottom. I swam with my eyes open and it 
was green and dark. The raft made a dark shadow. I came out of the water 
beside the raft, pulled up, dove once more, holding it for length, and 
then swam ashore."

------------------------------------------------------------

I can never recall having felt like "a fish marked with his own peculiar 
individuality." Have you? Do readers of sci-fi feel this way sometimes? 
Or are you taking something else from the reading besides an 
understanding of how the character feels? What do you want from a 
passage like the one Carlo quoted?

  -Shay


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: For those who love SF
Date: 26 Oct 2009 15:54:08
Message: <4ae5fe60@news.povray.org>
Shay wrote:
> Carlo C. wrote:
>> A incipit from "THE STATUS CIVILIZATION", by Robert Sheckley
>>
>> "
>> His return to consciousness was a slow and painful process. It was a 
>> journey in
>> which he traversed all time. He dreamed. He rose through thick layers 
>> of sleep,
>> out of the imaginary beginnings of all things. He lifted a pseudopod from
>> primordial ooze, and the pseudopod was him. He became an amoeba which 
>> contained
>> his essence; then a fish marked with his own peculiar individuality; 
>> then an ape
>> unlike all other apes. And finally, he became a man.
>> [...]
>> "
>>
>> link:
>> http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/20919
>>
> 
> OK, what is a reader meant to take from this? I'm trying to "get" other 
> types of writing. Here are some examples of writing I do "get":
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> "What of it, if some old hunks of a sea-captain orders me to get a broom 
> and sweep down the decks? What does that indignity amount to, weighed, I 
> mean, in the scales of the New Testament? Do you think the archangel 
> Gabriel thinks anything the less of me, because I promptly and 
> respectfully obey that old hunks in that particular instance? Who ain't 
> a slave? Tell me that. Well, then, however the old sea-captains may 
> order me about- however they may thump and punch me about, I have the 
> satisfaction of knowing that it is all right; that everybody else is one 
> way or other served in much the same way- either in a physical or 
> metaphysical point of view, that is; and so the universal thump is 
> passed round, and all hands should rub each other's shoulder-blades, and 
> be content."
> 
> Having read that, I'm sure you'll reference it at some point in the 
> future. It's very universal, I think.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Here's another. I left work after a twelve hour day of manual labor in 
> the desert summer and drove to a swimming hole in Balmorhea, TX. I swam 
> out through the cold water to a ruined boat lift and dove off several 
> times. As I did, I strongly recalled the following:
> 
> "I waded out. The water was cold. As a roller came I dove, swam out 
> under water, and came to the surface with all the chill gone. I swam out 
> to the raft, pulled myself up, and lay on the hot planks. ... I lay on 
> the raft in the sun until I was dry. Then I tried several dives. I dove 
> deep once, swimming down to the bottom. I swam with my eyes open and it 
> was green and dark. The raft made a dark shadow. I came out of the water 
> beside the raft, pulled up, dove once more, holding it for length, and 
> then swam ashore."
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I can never recall having felt like "a fish marked with his own peculiar 
> individuality." Have you? Do readers of sci-fi feel this way sometimes? 
> Or are you taking something else from the reading besides an 
> understanding of how the character feels? What do you want from a 
> passage like the one Carlo quoted?
> 
>  -Shay

No clues?


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