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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Fire Power
Date: 27 Jul 2009 12:21:14
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> (Altho that's a different gun.)

  Yeah, slightly different. I don't think the helicopter would be able to
even lift the GAU-8, much less fire it. :P

  But same idea, I suppose. (Maybe the bullets from the GAU-8 travel even
faster, giving even more the visual impression of a "laser".)

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Fire Power
Date: 27 Jul 2009 12:32:17
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Even better.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Oc-xbpy-OI

> Shows the ammo and tells some more stats, too, but no cool visual effects 
> except seeing the targets blow up.

  The Goalkeeper CIWS also uses the GAU-8 as its weapon. Some cool videos
can be found at youtube.

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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Fire Power
Date: 27 Jul 2009 13:35:00
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Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
> >   There's a persistent urban legend that the recoil of the GAU cannon is
> > so strong that firing it for long periods of time would stop the plane.
> > While the recoil is indeed impressive, it's not, however, strong enough
> > to stop the plane (but it can slow it down significantly).
>
> I'd never heard that one, but isn't that the gun that's fired out the
> side of the plane while it banks to compensate for the force?

Many fighter planes feature a gun mounted off-axis, but that's not as dramatic
because we're talking about 20mm M61 Vulcan cannons there, which produce much
lower recoil power, and has a role of a backup weapon anyway, so the benefit of
not having to pay much attention to the cannon in the plane's design outweigh
that of having an on-axis cannon.

The A-10's cannon, however, is mounted only slightly off-axis - and only for one
single reason: So that the one barrel of seven, which is currently firing, *is*
perfectly on-axis.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Fire Power
Date: 27 Jul 2009 13:40:00
Message: <web.4a6de59283da2730842b7b550@news.povray.org>
"clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Is that "dakka" as in "rat-tat-tat"?
>
> But these things don't go "rat-tat-tat", nor "dakka dakka" - they're more like a
> loud, high-pitched humming at 3900 Hz (something like b'''' for the musicians
> out there)...

FAIL.

It's 65 Hz of course (3900 rpm), so it would be a *deep* loud hum.

Still no "dakka dakka" though ;)


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Fire Power
Date: 27 Jul 2009 14:00:01
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Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> "This is the kind of gun they used to put planes on. It wasn't a case
> of 'Oh, we got this jet fighter, it kinda needs something besides
> missiles and bombs and shit, let's strap this thing on'. NO. It was a
> case of a guy making a gun SO awesome, that he just stepped back, and
> said, 'This shit needs to fly'. And everyone else is like, 'You cant
> make a gun fly!'. And the first guy is all like, 'Fuck you, yes I
> can. I will strap a plane to this gun.' And everyone's like, 'You mean
> strap the gun to a plane?' And the first guy is like, 'No, man. I am
> strapping the plane to the gun. The plane is an accessory.' And then
> everyone's minds were blown. Like, there was some serious mind blowing
> going on there. Ears were bleeding. Synapses just went an committed
> suicide because it was so awesome."

Yeah, that's exactly how.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Fire Power
Date: 27 Jul 2009 14:25:00
Message: <web.4a6df01083da2730842b7b550@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >   Iraqi troops in both the first and second Gulf Wars described the A-10's
> > cannon as a laser because of the addition of tracers every 20 rounds.
>
> Sort of like this.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtU-Q_ClkwY

Yeah, looks freakin' lot like Spielberg...


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Fire Power
Date: 27 Jul 2009 14:40:00
Message: <web.4a6df39683da2730842b7b550@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>   But same idea, I suppose. (Maybe the bullets from the GAU-8 travel even
> faster, giving even more the visual impression of a "laser".)

"Muzzle velocity [of the GAU-8] when firing Armor-Piercing Incendiary rounds is
3,250 feet per second (990 m/s), almost the same as the substantially lighter
M61 Vulcan's 20 mm round"

But the rounds might carry more of that "tracing stuff", so that the trail may
be brighter.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Fire Power
Date: 27 Jul 2009 15:15:00
Message: <web.4a6dfbde83da2730842b7b550@news.povray.org>
"Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote:
> No. The gun is mounted off-centre, but the firing barrel is always along
> the centreline of the plane.

Speaking of asymmetrical fighter planes, here's another design:

http://www.geocities.com/asymmetrics/ares.htm


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Fire Power
Date: 27 Jul 2009 15:25:00
Message: <web.4a6dfeb083da2730842b7b550@news.povray.org>
"clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote:
> > No. The gun is mounted off-centre, but the firing barrel is always along
> > the centreline of the plane.
>
> Speaking of asymmetrical fighter planes, here's another design:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/asymmetrics/ares.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG9LlHcX8lg


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Fire Power
Date: 27 Jul 2009 17:05:01
Message: <web.4a6e160e83da2730842b7b550@news.povray.org>
"clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > "Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote:
> > > No. The gun is mounted off-centre, but the firing barrel is always along
> > > the centreline of the plane.
> >
> > Speaking of asymmetrical fighter planes, here's another design:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/asymmetrics/ares.htm
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG9LlHcX8lg

.... btw, from the same people who were the first to bring a man into space (and
back) without a dime of governmental funding.


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