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From: Warp
Subject: Re: So linux actually costs $40
Date: 8 Oct 2008 12:44:20
Message: <48ece364@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> >   (Of course expecting anyone to actually buy it is a bit hopeless given
> > that I must distribute the sources on demand.)

> Actually, I don't believe it's "on demand", it's that you must distribute 
> sources for any binaries (built from GPL code) you distribute, period.

  I think the GPL doesn't require you to distribute the source *with*
the binary, only that you provide the source code by some means, eg.
separately through a different channel.

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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: So linux actually costs $40
Date: 8 Oct 2008 13:22:21
Message: <48ecec4d$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> 
>   I think the GPL doesn't require you to distribute the source *with*
> the binary, only that you provide the source code by some means, eg.
> separately through a different channel.
> 

That's what I've understood also.

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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: So linux actually costs $40
Date: 8 Oct 2008 14:00:08
Message: <48ecf528@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> gregjohn escreveu:
>> Telling folks just to do without Flash ("crippled codecs"?) is the
>> "live in a
>> mud hut" approach to computing.
> 
> I use AdBlock in Firefox both at home Linux and work Windows.  I rarely
> see Flash, except in sites that don't know how to use HTML+CSS for menus.

	I think his point was that some people don't use Flash because of its
proprietary nature.

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: So linux actually costs $40
Date: 8 Oct 2008 14:19:53
Message: <48ecf9c9$1@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> gregjohn escreveu:
>>> Telling folks just to do without Flash ("crippled codecs"?) is the
>>> "live in a
>>> mud hut" approach to computing.
>> I use AdBlock in Firefox both at home Linux and work Windows.  I rarely
>> see Flash, except in sites that don't know how to use HTML+CSS for menus.
> 
> 	I think his point was that some people don't use Flash because of its
> proprietary nature.

And my point is that it's irrelevant and superfluous.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: So linux actually costs $40
Date: 8 Oct 2008 14:46:22
Message: <48ecfffe@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> And my point is that it's irrelevant and superfluous.

Well, unless you want to use youtube or google chat.

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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: So linux actually costs $40
Date: 8 Oct 2008 15:23:08
Message: <48ed089c$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> And my point is that it's irrelevant and superfluous.
> 
> Well, unless you want to use youtube or google chat.
> 

Youtube can be used via downloaders. It's not as practical, but possible.

Flash, in the form it exists right now, should be banned from this
world. It's a nice idea, but pretty much screwed up as a system.

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: So linux actually costs $40
Date: 8 Oct 2008 15:31:40
Message: <48ed0a9c@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen escreveu:
> Darren New wrote:
>> nemesis wrote:
>>> And my point is that it's irrelevant and superfluous.
>> Well, unless you want to use youtube or google chat.
>>
> 
> Youtube can be used via downloaders. It's not as practical, but possible.
> 
> Flash, in the form it exists right now, should be banned from this
> world. It's a nice idea, but pretty much screwed up as a system.

OTOH, better Flash than Silverlight, huh Darren? ;)


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: So linux actually costs $40
Date: 8 Oct 2008 15:32:28
Message: <48ed0acc$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> And my point is that it's irrelevant and superfluous.
> 
> Well, unless you want to use youtube or google chat.

I don't mind idiotube and GoogleChat is in javascript AFAIK.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: So linux actually costs $40
Date: 8 Oct 2008 16:24:15
Message: <48ed16ef@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> > nemesis wrote:
> >> And my point is that it's irrelevant and superfluous.
> > 
> > Well, unless you want to use youtube or google chat.
> > 

> Youtube can be used via downloaders. It's not as practical, but possible.

> Flash, in the form it exists right now, should be banned from this
> world. It's a nice idea, but pretty much screwed up as a system.

  I think you are letting your aversion take over rational judgement
because you can't concede even one single positive thing about Flash
(ie. that it makes services like YouTube really practical).

  Well, if you don't want to use Flash, that's your loss.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: So linux actually costs $40
Date: 8 Oct 2008 16:28:52
Message: <48ed1804$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> OTOH, better Flash than Silverlight, huh Darren? ;)

Dunno. I never really looked into the innards of either.

MS *does* tend to improve what they copy. :-)  I'd expect Silverlight to 
be better in many ways than Flash, just because MS got to see all the 
things Flash did wrong.

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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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