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From: bluetree
Subject: Re: Quick: name seven gases in your house!
Date: 11 Jan 2008 12:25:01
Message: <web.4787a5dc89d47f11446613100@news.povray.org>
> PS. Apparently there *are* compounds of Argon and gold, would you believe...

Yes, I believe! (don't want to build a sect)

> I thought H2 is quite rare in air?

I hope you, if not, it could be dangerous. Ey, but we could solve all energy
problems, we have. ^^


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Quick: name seven gases in your house!
Date: 11 Jan 2008 13:28:42
Message: <4787b55a$1@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:
> liquid, nozzle. Would you prefer faffing about with two-skin cans or 

All you'd need to do is run a can-length straw down the inside from the 
nozzle, like they do when you actually *want* to spray the liquid in the 
can (like WD-40, say).

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Quick: name seven gases in your house!
Date: 11 Jan 2008 13:30:38
Message: <4787b5ce$1@news.povray.org>
bluetree wrote:
> BTW, you were talking about "smelling" fish 

I was always amused that fish is one of those rare foods that people 
dislike when it tastes like what it is.

"How was the dinner?"
   "Ick. Too fishy."


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   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Quick: name seven gases in your house!
Date: 11 Jan 2008 13:31:24
Message: <4787b5fc$1@news.povray.org>
gregjohn wrote:
> My son has an elementary school homework assignment where he's supposed to do
> simple observations on a solid, liquid, and gas for seven days.  Solids: easy,
> liquids: seven is probably exact the number that is easy to name.  Gases?  So
> far, we've done air, boiling water, and the smoke from cooking fish.  But
> that's about all I can think of without either getting dangerous or overly
> egg-headed.

Nitrogen, Oxygen, Water Vapor, Carbon Dioxide,

Possibly: Propane, Butane, Methane (If you have a lighter, butane, 
natural gas: methane, gas grill: propane)

In small amounts: Neon (little orange lamps seen on some electrical 
equipment), maybe Argon (some light bulbs)...


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Quick: name seven gases in your house!
Date: 11 Jan 2008 13:34:41
Message: <4787b6c1$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:

> Isn't there a rare gas that seeps into the basements of houses in Cornwell and
> similar areas that is toxic?

Radon ...


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From: bluetree
Subject: Re: Quick: name seven gases in your house!
Date: 11 Jan 2008 14:05:01
Message: <web.4787bd4489d47f11446613100@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> I was always amused that fish is one of those rare foods that people
> dislike when it tastes like what it is.
>
> "How was the dinner?"
>    "Ick. Too fishy."

^^ yeah.
But people are every time very disgusted, if things are tasting like chicken
(and there is no chicken inside the food).
don't know why
Chicken is good, isn't it?


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Quick: name seven gases in your house!
Date: 11 Jan 2008 15:43:54
Message: <4787d50a@news.povray.org>
gregjohn wrote:
> My son has an elementary school homework assignment where he's supposed to do
> simple observations on a solid, liquid, and gas for seven days.  Solids: easy,
> liquids: seven is probably exact the number that is easy to name.  Gases?  So
> far, we've done air, boiling water, and the smoke from cooking fish.  But
> that's about all I can think of without either getting dangerous or overly
> egg-headed.
> 
Oxygen
Nitrogen
Argon
Carbon dioxide (burn something)
Water vapor (normally present when humidity is above zero)
Methane (when people pass gas)
Hydrogen sulfide (ditto)

Hope this helps,
John


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Quick: name seven gases in your house!
Date: 12 Jan 2008 05:42:21
Message: <7b6ho3dhpggi9rn0ji982u2tk5dj5enj0c@4ax.com>
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:24:06 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>>> I think the fact it doesn't 'do anything' from our limited perception on  
>>> matters makes it seem rarer, a bit like the fact that nitrogen forms a  
>>> greater percentage of air then oxygen sometimes comes as a shock to people.
>> 
>> Isn't there a rare gas that seeps into the basements of houses in Cornwell and
>> similar areas that is toxic?
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon
>
>Radioactive, not toxic. (It's a noble gas, after all...)

Are you correcting my English?

>PS. Apparently there *are* compounds of Argon and gold, would you believe...

Aye!

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Quick: name seven gases in your house!
Date: 12 Jan 2008 05:42:40
Message: <kc6ho3l18ra2mshj7bi260u3bl9keivnp7@4ax.com>
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:30:35 -0600, Mike Raiford <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>
>> Isn't there a rare gas that seeps into the basements of houses in Cornwell and
>> similar areas that is toxic?
>
>Radon ...

Thanks!

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Quick: name seven gases in your house!
Date: 12 Jan 2008 13:44:23
Message: <47890a87$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/01/11 11:18:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:26:16 -0000, "Phil Cook"
> <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
> 
>> I think the fact it doesn't 'do anything' from our limited perception on  
>> matters makes it seem rarer, a bit like the fact that nitrogen forms a  
>> greater percentage of air then oxygen sometimes comes as a shock to people.
> 
> Isn't there a rare gas that seeps into the basements of houses in Cornwell and
> similar areas that is toxic?
> 
> Regards
> 	Stephen
Radon is radioactive. But, as it's a "noble" gas, it's non-reactive and thus 
can't be toxic. To be toxic, a substance need to be able to easily react with 
other substances.
As radon is radioactive, it cause some ionisation in other substances. That 
ionisation can denaturate some substances. But radon's radioactivity is very 
weak. You need a lot of it over several years for it to become a problem. Any 
basement where you go more than 4 times a year will have to much air movement to 
be able to get a critical radon concentration. Also, the floor need to be 
permeable, while the walls and ceiling need to be prety air tight.

-- 
Alain
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include stuff like "Once there was a polygon mesh who was very sad because he 
was only Gourard shaded."
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