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From: scott
Subject: Re: Sketchup versus povray
Date: 8 Jan 2008 03:30:44
Message: <478334b4$1@news.povray.org>
> 1. Wow... Actual CAD software exists and there are people who use it.

Yes, the package I use sells about 30k copies a year.  So some people must 
be using it.

> 2. A mouse? Really? Not a tablet or some other futuristic input device?

I use a mouse for drawing 2D sketches (as do most other people I know), it's 
most intuitive given that it's what you use for every other operation like 
this in other software.  For panning/zooming (and rotating when in 3D) I use 
a 3D mouse with my left hand though.


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Sketchup versus povray
Date: 8 Jan 2008 11:53:19
Message: <4783aa7f@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/01/07 16:33:
> scott wrote:
> 
>> Just for interest, all modern 3D CAD programs work in similar way to 
>> SketchUp to start with.  You draw you stuff using the mouse, and the 
>> software automatically tries to guess what you meant to do (ie lines 
>> at right angles to each other, lines parallel, same length etc).  
>> After you've drawn your initial sketch you can then go and delete/add 
>> constraints until your sketch is exactly as you want.  Of course 
>> constraints can be formulae based on other dimensions, other drawings 
>> etc so it's very flexible to build up a whole model based on just a 
>> few parameters.  The huge benefit is that when you want to change one 
>> of the key parameters, the entire model is updated in virtually 
>> real-time (depending on the complexity of the model...)
> 
> 1. Wow... Actual CAD software exists and there are people who use it.
Tons of peoples use those. AutoCAD is a huge one. Started 2D only, then added 
faked 3D, then 3D primitives and modeling. Professional use only at over $6000 
per workstation/user, unless you have a pirated version...
> 
> 2. A mouse? Really? Not a tablet or some other futuristic input device?
A tablet futuristic? It's over 20 years old!
> 


-- 
Alain
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No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up 
with her shit.
	Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill, Chapel Hill , NC


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Sketchup versus povray
Date: 8 Jan 2008 12:00:55
Message: <4783ac47$1@news.povray.org>
>> 1. Wow... Actual CAD software exists and there are people who use it.

> Tons of peoples use those. AutoCAD is a huge one. Started 2D only, then 
> added faked 3D, then 3D primitives and modeling. Professional use only 
> at over $6000 per workstation/user, unless you have a pirated version...

I guess it's a fairly specialist application area... (Specifically, if 
you're not designing anything, you probably won't need it!)

>> 2. A mouse? Really? Not a tablet or some other futuristic input device?

> A tablet futuristic? It's over 20 years old!

Well, *computers* were regarded as "futuristic" for a very long time 
after they were invented - mainly because almost nobody owned one. ;-)

I was half-expecting a dataglove...

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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Sketchup versus povray
Date: 8 Jan 2008 19:29:59
Message: <47841587$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/01/08 12:00:
>>> 1. Wow... Actual CAD software exists and there are people who use it.
> 
>> Tons of peoples use those. AutoCAD is a huge one. Started 2D only, 
>> then added faked 3D, then 3D primitives and modeling. Professional use 
>> only at over $6000 per workstation/user, unless you have a pirated 
>> version...
> 
> I guess it's a fairly specialist application area... (Specifically, if 
> you're not designing anything, you probably won't need it!)
> 
Engeenering, civil engeiniring, architecture, interior planing... Also 
acoustics, stage planing and some more.
I have a brother who use it dayly for his work and use a "piked-up" version as a 
hoby. The maker realy don't mind that, as long as you don't use that copy for 
anything professional.
They made a "light" version that you can have for less than 5% of the price of 
the regular version, made for those who can't "borrow" a copy from work. It's a 
few versions behind.

-- 
Alain
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You know you've been raytracing too long when you've converted POV-Ray into an 
operating system; now you've got all the system resources to do your renderings.
Vimal N. Lad / Gautam N. Lad


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Sketchup versus povray
Date: 9 Jan 2008 03:40:13
Message: <4784886d$1@news.povray.org>
> Engeenering, civil engeiniring, architecture, interior planing... Also 
> acoustics, stage planing and some more.
> I have a brother who use it dayly for his work and use a "piked-up" 
> version as a hoby. The maker realy don't mind that, as long as you don't 
> use that copy for anything professional.

Do you mean he is "picking up" the license at home from the license server 
at work?  That is totally legal and the whole point of having a central 
license server - I do it all the time for both professional and hobby work. 
And even if you don't have an internet/VPN connection to the license server, 
you can "check out" a license and use it for up to 30 days standalone 
(obviously nobody else can use the license during this period).


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Sketchup versus povray
Date: 9 Jan 2008 14:49:48
Message: <4785255c$1@news.povray.org>
scott nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/01/09 03:40:
>> Engeenering, civil engeiniring, architecture, interior planing... Also 
>> acoustics, stage planing and some more.
>> I have a brother who use it dayly for his work and use a "piked-up" 
>> version as a hoby. The maker realy don't mind that, as long as you 
>> don't use that copy for anything professional.
> 
> Do you mean he is "picking up" the license at home from the license 
> server at work?  That is totally legal and the whole point of having a 
> central license server - I do it all the time for both professional and 
> hobby work. And even if you don't have an internet/VPN connection to the 
> license server, you can "check out" a license and use it for up to 30 
> days standalone (obviously nobody else can use the license during this 
> period).
> 
> 
Borrow the installations floppies(before)/CD(now) and install it localy at home 
or on his portable.
There is NO registration procedure at all, No serial number to enter, and you 
can leave all identification, but the name, blank. The name can be any 1 or more 
leters.
Autodesk don't mind. They know very well that they will never sell the regular 
version to individuals. They also know that an individual who have a "gray" copy 
may induce some administrators to buy many licences. Increasing the user base is 
the key word.

-- 
Alain
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Expert, n.: Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides.


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Sketchup versus povray
Date: 10 Jan 2008 13:05:44
Message: <47865e78$1@news.povray.org>
>> I guess it's a fairly specialist application area... (Specifically, if 
>> you're not designing anything, you probably won't need it!)
>>
> Engeenering, civil engeiniring, architecture, interior planing... Also 
> acoustics, stage planing and some more.

All sounds pretty high-end to me. :-)

(Let's face it, most people's job is to file paperwork...)

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From: St 
Subject: Re: Sketchup versus povray
Date: 10 Jan 2008 14:40:17
Message: <478674a1@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
news:47865e78$1@news.povray.org...
>>> I guess it's a fairly specialist application area... (Specifically, if 
>>> you're not designing anything, you probably won't need it!)
>>>
>> Engeenering, civil engeiniring, architecture, interior planing... Also 
>> acoustics, stage planing and some more.
>
> All sounds pretty high-end to me. :-)
>
> (Let's face it, most people's job is to file paperwork...)


  Eh? How do you come to that conclusion?

     ~Steve~



>
> -- 
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Sketchup versus povray
Date: 10 Jan 2008 14:49:20
Message: <ahtco39t9lpdt7k76j6br0guot5d835jb1@4ax.com>
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:40:10 -0000, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

>
>  Eh? How do you come to that conclusion?

'Cause not everyone has a proper job :)
Now-a-days I file electronic paper instead of moving oil barrels from one end of
the rig to another.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Sketchup versus povray
Date: 10 Jan 2008 17:06:27
Message: <478696e3$1@news.povray.org>
>>>> I guess it's a fairly specialist application area... (Specifically, if 
>>>> you're not designing anything, you probably won't need it!)
>>>>
>>> Engeenering, civil engeiniring, architecture, interior planing... Also 
>>> acoustics, stage planing and some more.
>> All sounds pretty high-end to me. :-)
>>
>> (Let's face it, most people's job is to file paperwork...)
> 
> 
>   Eh? How do you come to that conclusion?

Two is greater than four for sufficiently large two. ;-)

Or something...

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