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The preview button erases huge portions of whatever I type. Help
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"Peter Markley" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> The preview button erases huge portions of whatever I type. Help
Testing one two three. This is a test because my confidence as a user is
extremely undermined right now and as a desperate coping mechanism I am
investigating and studying the problem behavior to gain more knowledge about
in how to use the system and accomplish my goals
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hi,
"Peter Markley" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "Peter Markley" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > The preview button erases huge portions of whatever I type. Help
>
> Testing one two three. This is a test because my confidence as a user is
> extremely undermined right now and as a desperate coping mechanism I am
> investigating and studying the problem behavior to gain more knowledge about
> in how to use the system and accomplish my goals
there used to be problems with accented letters and such, but I have not yet
lost "portions of whatever I type". fingers crossed your problem was local and
temporary.
regards, jr.
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"jr" <cre### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> hi,
>
> "Peter Markley" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > "Peter Markley" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > > The preview button erases huge portions of whatever I type.
> there used to be problems with accented letters and such, but I have not yet
> lost "portions of whatever I type".
The problem was usually when utf-8 character sets were trying to be displayed in
the web-browser.
I myself have experienced this issue, however, it's unclear whether the messages
on the server that appear to have missing portions are in fact intact when
viewed with a newsreader such as Thunderbird.
Someone using Thunderbird or Chris Cason would have to investigate and determine
what the exact problem is.
Just curious what happens if you copy your message, paste into a plain text
editor to scrub UTF-8 and substitute with plain ASCII, and then copy THAT text
and paste back into the we message editor and then preview.
- BE
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"Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> The problem was usually when utf-8 character sets were trying to be displayed in
> the web-browser.
>
> Just curious what happens if you copy your message, paste into a plain text
> editor to scrub UTF-8 and substitute with plain ASCII, and then copy THAT text
> and paste back into the we message editor and then preview.
>
> - BE
Oh my goodness, THANK YOU! That does the trick
I was using a mobile keyboard that by default inserts typographical marks
instead of ASCII, so literally anything I typed that had an apostrophe or
quotation mark would get stomped on.
It was very confusing and distressing and I'm not sure I could have figured it
out without your tip!
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"Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> it's unclear whether the messages on the server that appear
> to have missing portions are in fact intact when
> viewed with a newsreader such as Thunderbird.
>
> Someone using Thunderbird or Chris Cason would have to investigate and determine
> what the exact problem is.
>
> - BE
Actually I may have just found another useful clue.
I was browsing a very old forum thread of mine (posted under a lost account
"Quartz") and noticed the problem happening to messages there also:
https://news.povray.org/povray.advanced-users/thread/%3Cweb.4e5f0af057ee503f2b8e18870%40news.povray.org%3E/?mtop=424594
&moff=10
What's telling here is that:
1. I don't remember experiencing this problem back then, and
2. The conversation seems to acknowledge the missing portions of the messages,
as if they were still visible at the time
At least for that old thread, I feel like this points toward the problem being
merely on output/display, i.e. that the messages still exist intact in the
website's storage.
I'm not sure if that logic applies equally to new messages posted today, but
there it is
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On 6/6/26 10:18 AM, Peter Markley wrote:
> "Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
>> Someone using Thunderbird or Chris Cason would have to investigate and determine
>> what the exact problem is.
>
> I was browsing a very old forum thread of mine (posted under a lost account
> "Quartz") and noticed the problem happening to messages there also:
>
https://news.povray.org/povray.advanced-users/thread/%3Cweb.4e5f0af057ee503f2b8e18870%40news.povray.org%3E/?mtop=424594
> &moff=10
I just loaded things in Thunderbird.
1. My 2nd message on this thread is still missing the line that says
"what does or doesn't trigger it" (presumably thanks to the
typographical apostrophe in "doesn't")
2. My old messages from 2011 mentioned above are INTACT when viewed
with Thunderbird. See attached screenshot comparing Thunderbird vs. web view
I believe this is because the problem is currently affecting both input
and output on the web interface. (This is evident because when you press
"preview message" any lines with UTF-8 chars are erased even before
anything is posted/stored, then if you press "edit message" to re-open
the edit dialog the lines are still gone--in the exact field where you
typed them moments before.)
If my hypothesis is true, this means UTF-8 input is still possible when
posting a message via Thunderbird.
As a test, here's a line with an upside-down face emoji (U+1F643),
enclosed between two chains of equals signs:
=======
🙃
=======
I believe this will succeed to post in the Newsgroup intact, so that
Thunderbird sees the emoji but the web interface does not.
--
https://petermarkley.com
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On 6/6/26 5:12 PM, Peter Markley wrote:
> =======
> 🙃
> =======
>
> I believe this will succeed to post in the Newsgroup intact, so that
> Thunderbird sees the emoji but the web interface does not.
Okay ... well ... It shows up correctly in the web interface
That either suggests there's some difference between how the 2011
message is stored or displayed vs. this new one, or else I'm just way
off track in general.
As a last test, let me try a few other char types in case it's the
choice of emoji ...
Typographical apostrophe:
=====
It’s
=====
Typographical quotes:
=====
“Its”
=====
Copyright symbol:
=====
©
=====
--
https://petermarkley.com
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We're all here to help.
Welcome back to the POV-Ray community!
Looking forward to your YT video, and many fun projects and renders.
- BE
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On 6/6/26 6:32 PM, Bald Eagle wrote:
> We're all here to help.
>
> Welcome back to the POV-Ray community!
>
> Looking forward to your YT video, and many fun projects and renders.
>
> - BE
Thank you! :-D
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https://petermarkley.com
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