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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Lost words
Date: 15 Sep 2017 07:51:03
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Am 15.09.2017 um 13:09 schrieb Thomas de Groot:

> Quacksalver: That one is a common word in Dutch: Kwakzalver.

"Quacksalber" in German. I don't think it's very common these days, but
it's not dead either.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Lost words
Date: 15 Sep 2017 11:33:32
Message: <59bbf2cc$1@news.povray.org>
On 15/09/2017 12:09, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> 
> Quacksalver: That one is a common word in Dutch: Kwakzalver.


That will be where we get quack doctor from. I guess

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     Stephen


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Lost words
Date: 15 Sep 2017 11:40:01
Message: <web.59bbf37bf1d769bfc437ac910@news.povray.org>
When I was in grad school for organic chem, I recall someone saying,

"Olefin is an old word, kind of like betwixt or forsooth."

It's been scores of fortnights, but I recall that.


There's lots of great words in books by Tolkien, Stephen R. Donaldson, and
Jonanthan Ott.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Lost words
Date: 15 Sep 2017 12:51:39
Message: <59bc051b$1@news.povray.org>
On 15/09/2017 16:36, Bald Eagle wrote:
> When I was in grad school for organic chem, I recall someone saying,
> 
> "Olefin is an old word, kind of like betwixt or forsooth."
> 
> It's been scores of fortnights, but I recall that.
> 
> 

Which reminds me that the old name for a week was sennight or se'nnight.


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     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Lost words
Date: 16 Sep 2017 02:48:21
Message: <59bcc935$1@news.povray.org>
On 15-9-2017 17:33, Stephen wrote:
> On 15/09/2017 12:09, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>
>> Quacksalver: That one is a common word in Dutch: Kwakzalver.
> 
> 
> That will be where we get quack doctor from. I guess
> 

I certainly think so. Curiosity taking the overhand, I looked the origin 
up (Webster):

obsolete Dutch (now kwakzalver); first known use: 1579.

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Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Lost words
Date: 16 Sep 2017 02:52:23
Message: <59bcca27$1@news.povray.org>
On 16-9-2017 8:48, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 15-9-2017 17:33, Stephen wrote:
>> On 15/09/2017 12:09, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>
>>> Quacksalver: That one is a common word in Dutch: Kwakzalver.
>>
>>
>> That will be where we get quack doctor from. I guess
>>
> 
> I certainly think so. Curiosity taking the overhand, I looked the origin 
> up (Webster):
> 
> obsolete Dutch (now kwakzalver); first known use: 1579.
> 

Forgot to mention this, about /quack/: coming from /kwaken/ to croak.

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Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Lost words
Date: 16 Sep 2017 06:34:47
Message: <59bcfe47$1@news.povray.org>
On 16/09/2017 07:52, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 16-9-2017 8:48, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 15-9-2017 17:33, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 15/09/2017 12:09, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Quacksalver: That one is a common word in Dutch: Kwakzalver.
>>>
>>>
>>> That will be where we get quack doctor from. I guess
>>>
>>
>> I certainly think so. Curiosity taking the overhand, I looked the 
>> origin up (Webster):
>>
>> obsolete Dutch (now kwakzalver); first known use: 1579.
>>
> 
> Forgot to mention this, about /quack/: coming from /kwaken/ to croak.
> 

The Kwaken Awakes? <groan>

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     Stephen


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Lost words
Date: 16 Sep 2017 14:50:00
Message: <web.59bd721cf1d769bf5cafe28e0@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:

> The Kwaken Awakes? <groan>
>
> --
>
> Regards
>      Stephen


https://i.pinimg.com/736x/50/04/75/5004751ec8784d69c736d9d490bb870d--roman-emperor-monty-python-life-of-brian.jpg


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From: Andrel
Subject: Re: Lost words
Date: 16 Sep 2017 15:26:17
Message: <59bd7ad9$1@news.povray.org>
On 16-09-17 08:48, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 15-9-2017 17:33, Stephen wrote:
>> On 15/09/2017 12:09, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>
>>> Quacksalver: That one is a common word in Dutch: Kwakzalver.
>>
>>
>> That will be where we get quack doctor from. I guess
>>
> 
> I certainly think so. Curiosity taking the overhand, I looked the origin 
> up (Webster):
> 
> obsolete Dutch (now kwakzalver); first known use: 1579.
> 

Second part of the word means he who applies a liniment/ointment (dutch 
word for that is 'zalf'. The change from f to v is common for this word 
ending. A female quack would be a kwakzalfster. Though that word is 
never used as far as I know.
Kwakzalver is absolutely not dead in the Netherlands
We have a society against quacks (http://www.kwakzalverij.nl/) that is 
very vocal against people practicing alternative medicine in ways that 
hurt and even kill patients. Directly or by not giving proven care.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Lost words
Date: 17 Sep 2017 09:49:14
Message: <59be7d5a$1@news.povray.org>
On 16/09/2017 19:49, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> 
>> The Kwaken Awakes? <groan>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>>       Stephen
> 
> 
>
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/50/04/75/5004751ec8784d69c736d9d490bb870d--roman-emperor-monty-python-life-of-brian.jpg
> 

:D

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Regards
     Stephen


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