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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 09:24:31
Message: <4c12390f$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> What I simply can't believe is that he sold his soul to win at freecell 
> of all things. You'd think you'd go for something a little more 
> upmarket.. :D

If I sold my soul for the ability to solve the Halting Problem, would 
that allow me to defy the usual laws of causality?

Could I use it to predict the outcome of somebody's mental processes 
before it happens?

Would this enable me to finally get laid??


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 10:11:45
Message: <4c124421$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/11/2010 8:24 AM, Invisible wrote:

> If I sold my soul for the ability to solve the Halting Problem, would
> that allow me to defy the usual laws of causality?

No.

> Could I use it to predict the outcome of somebody's mental processes
> before it happens?

No.

> Would this enable me to finally get laid??

Definitely not.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 10:23:24
Message: <4c1246dc$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

>> Would this enable me to finally get laid??
> 
> Definitely not.

Damn. You need to tell me your secrets...

...oh, wait. American. Oh well! ;-)


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 12:15:01
Message: <web.4c12603ae46fa193a4659c30@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Would this enable me to finally get laid??

no, but cash would do the job fairly quickly.  More appropriately, a
professional would do the job.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 13:00:54
Message: <4c126bc5@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> If I sold my soul for the ability to solve the Halting Problem, would 
> that allow me to defy the usual laws of causality?

  You can't sell your soul to solve an unsolvable problem.

  However, if you sell it for the proof to the P=NP question and the
Riemann hypothesis, that would be something. (Or at least you would get
2 million dollars richer, and famous among the scientific community.)

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 13:11:49
Message: <4c126e55@news.povray.org>
On 6/11/2010 9:23 AM, Invisible wrote:

>
> Damn. You need to tell me your secrets...

I already have.

> ...oh, wait. American. Oh well! ;-)

That's irrelevant in the scheme of things.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 14:25:04
Message: <4c127f80@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> If I sold my soul for the ability to solve the Halting Problem, would 
>> that allow me to defy the usual laws of causality?
> 
>   You can't sell your soul to solve an unsolvable problem.

It is known that a Turning machine cannot determine whether a given 
machine will halt. No reason why I can't sell my soul for the ability to 
be able to tell. ;-)

>   However, if you sell it for the proof to the P=NP question and the
> Riemann hypothesis, that would be something. (Or at least you would get
> 2 million dollars richer, and famous among the scientific community.)

Unfortunately, we're dealing with the Devil here. He'd probably agree to 
buy my soul in return for the proof of P=NP, and then it turns out that 
actually P /= NP so I get nothing (but He still gets my soul...)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 14:37:58
Message: <4c128285@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >   However, if you sell it for the proof to the P=NP question and the
> > Riemann hypothesis, that would be something. (Or at least you would get
> > 2 million dollars richer, and famous among the scientific community.)

> Unfortunately, we're dealing with the Devil here. He'd probably agree to 
> buy my soul in return for the proof of P=NP, and then it turns out that 
> actually P /= NP so I get nothing (but He still gets my soul...)

  Of course you have to negotiate. When the scientific community accepts
the proofs, then the soul ownership is transferred, not before.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 11 Jun 2010 16:15:42
Message: <4c12996e$1@news.povray.org>
On 2010-06-10 18:45, John VanSickle wrote:
> Some of you probably know how I accomplished this.

Only on 77 wins/77 played, myself.

However, I do know that only one of the games in its repertoire is 
actually unsolvable.

--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: An Unholy Winning Streak
Date: 12 Jun 2010 04:47:33
Message: <4c1349a5@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>> Unfortunately, we're dealing with the Devil here. He'd probably agree to 
>> buy my soul in return for the proof of P=NP, and then it turns out that 
>> actually P /= NP so I get nothing (but He still gets my soul...)
> 
>   Of course you have to negotiate. When the scientific community accepts
> the proofs, then the soul ownership is transferred, not before.

Ah. I see you've delt with Satan before? ;-)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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