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Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2010 10:33 PM, nemesis wrote:
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> > Designing a GPU for PS4 may sound glamurous, but I guess if you were the
> > japanese guy working 30 hours a day under lots of pressure you'd actually think
> > of suicide... :P
>
> What I didn't realize was that the Japanese were able to alter the very
> fabric of time... 30 hours a day? Really?
do you understand the basics of humor? ;)
in any case, I wouldn't be surprised they do... :)
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> given the clean-room requirements and high-resolution photo-etching
> process.
Except that it's pretty much mostly automated. It's a huge capital expense,
and then automated after that. And when there's only a couple of fabs in the
whole world, the amount of business they get pays off the fab pretty
quickly. Basically the prices are set to make a decent profit by the time
the fab's technology is outdated.
> Not heard of GPIB, so I looked it up. Apparently aka IEEE-488 surprised
Wow. Even *I* heard of both of those years ago. :-)
> they're not using Ethernet or something less obsolete
Which ethernet? Thick? Thin Coax? cat-5? Test equipment like this is
expected to last decades.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Eiffel - The language that lets you specify exactly
that the code does what you think it does, even if
it doesn't do what you wanted.
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>> they're not using Ethernet or something less obsolete
>
> Which ethernet? Thick? Thin Coax? cat-5? Test equipment like this is
> expected to last decades.
I should maybe point out that these mass spectrometers retail for
approximately £250,000 *each*. (I.e., this machine is worth more than my
_house_.)
I have no idea why they're so expensive, mind you...
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> What is groundbreaking about the iphone is it's multi-touch ability.
OK, I'll bite. What *is* groundbreaking about it?
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Eiffel - The language that lets you specify exactly
that the code does what you think it does, even if
it doesn't do what you wanted.
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> There's "emotionally unstable" and then there's "nobody wants to ****ing
> know you, mate". :-(
litterally, huh? ;)
in any case, you should become a lot less unstable precisely by going through
all those issues. It's called "maturing". Either that or you'd become more
unstable and get rid of the child and go to jail. It's called "going nuts".
this was cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=667slY8WIyo&NR=1
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Invisible wrote:
>>> they're not using Ethernet or something less obsolete
>>
>> Which ethernet? Thick? Thin Coax? cat-5? Test equipment like this is
>> expected to last decades.
>
> I should maybe point out that these mass spectrometers retail for
> approximately £250,000 *each*.
I'm not sure what that has to do with how "obsolete" or not GPIB is.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Eiffel - The language that lets you specify exactly
that the code does what you think it does, even if
it doesn't do what you wanted.
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
> > What is groundbreaking about the iphone is it's multi-touch ability.
>
> OK, I'll bite. What *is* groundbreaking about it?
that it was the first of its kind in consumer electronics? That it used it
effectivelly in some UI functions, like zooming in and out of photos?
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nemesis wrote:
> that it was the first of its kind in consumer electronics?
Sorry. I misread that as "That's not what's groundbreaking about the
iPhone." Nevermind.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Eiffel - The language that lets you specify exactly
that the code does what you think it does, even if
it doesn't do what you wanted.
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>> Judging by the
>> other posts I've read, the cost isn't in the fab. Which is surprising,
>> given the clean-room requirements and high-resolution photo-etching
>> process.
>
> Not surprising if you remember that you have the very same costs for
> off-the-shelf ICs as well.
I would have expected that, like most things in manufacturing, the cost
is all in setting up the production run. Once it's running it can
probably stamp out identical components very fast and quite cheaply.
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>>>> they're not using Ethernet or something less obsolete
>>>
>>> Which ethernet? Thick? Thin Coax? cat-5? Test equipment like this is
>>> expected to last decades.
>>
>> I should maybe point out that these mass spectrometers retail for
>> approximately £250,000 *each*.
>
> I'm not sure what that has to do with how "obsolete" or not GPIB is.
Point being that if you pay a quarter of a million dollars for
something, you don't expect to replace it in 6 months' time.
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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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