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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Electronics activity
Date: 24 May 2010 09:58:38
Message: <4bfa860e$1@news.povray.org>
On 5/24/2010 8:38 AM, Invisible wrote:

> And 10 m of wire weighs, what, about 10 grams?
>
> Oddly, both the single-strand and multi-strand cables appear to contain
> some kind of white metal, not copper.

tin-plated copper.

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~Mike


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Electronics activity
Date: 24 May 2010 10:13:41
Message: <4bfa8995$1@news.povray.org>
On 24/05/2010 2:23 PM, Mike Raiford wrote:
> On 5/23/2010 9:50 AM, Stephen wrote:
>
>> LOL, They get them from work ;-)
>
> For a minute there I thought you were going to say you picked them off
> of discarded electronics.
>

Lordy, no. Nothing but the best for the maintenance department. :-)


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	Stephen


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Electronics activity
Date: 24 May 2010 11:29:40
Message: <4bfa9b64$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> I have now cut some flexible wire, and it works quite well. (In 
> particular, it can go around corners...)

You're not supposed to run breadboard wires around corners. You're supposed 
to plug it into a hole and run a connected wire at an angle if you need angles.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Ada - the programming language trying to avoid
    you literally shooting yourself in the foot.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Electronics activity
Date: 24 May 2010 11:31:46
Message: <4bfa9be2$1@news.povray.org>
>> I have now cut some flexible wire, and it works quite well. (In 
>> particular, it can go around corners...)
> 
> You're not supposed to run breadboard wires around corners. You're 
> supposed to plug it into a hole and run a connected wire at an angle if 
> you need angles.

I don't follow.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Electronics activity
Date: 24 May 2010 17:59:36
Message: <4bfaf6c8$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> I don't follow.

http://www.robotroom.com/Pumpkin/LEDPulsingBreadboard.jpg

See how the black cable goes from C1 to C2?

Or how the purple cable goes "around the corner"?

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Ada - the programming language trying to avoid
    you literally shooting yourself in the foot.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Electronics activity
Date: 25 May 2010 03:55:05
Message: <4bfb8259$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> http://www.robotroom.com/Pumpkin/LEDPulsingBreadboard.jpg
> 
> See how the black cable goes from C1 to C2?
> 
> Or how the purple cable goes "around the corner"?

I see...

Makes it kinda hard to rest the ends of the wires on both battery 
terminals simultaneously when they're utterly rigid though. Similarly, 
if you've got one wire that's 4 holes wide and another that's 6 holes 
wide, you have to systematically design your circuits to not need any 
connections 5 holes wide. Routing becomes formally equivilent to solving 
the Zero Sum problem. (!) Not to mention the fact that those tiny 1-hole 
wide wire loops are excruciatingly hard to manipulate.

By contrast, if you have some flexible wire, you can make a loop of any 
size you desire, and it's very easy to work with.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Electronics activity
Date: 25 May 2010 04:09:48
Message: <4bfb85cc@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Hmm, this isn't going to work at all, is it?

Would it work if each switch had a seperate resistor? Or does that not 
fix it?


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Electronics activity
Date: 25 May 2010 06:26:58
Message: <4bfba5f2$1@news.povray.org>
>> Hmm, this isn't going to work at all, is it?

Depends what you mean by "work".  Seems like the two input pins on the IC 
are actually tied together (to the top side of the resistor), so it's just 
going to work like a NOT gate.

Did you also do the calculations to check that it's ok to use a single 360 
Ohm resistor with those two LEDs for every combination of output states?

> Would it work if each switch had a seperate resistor? Or does that not fix 
> it?

Dude, really, you are going to fall over yourself over and over again if you 
refuse to learn at least some basic analogue circuit electronics.  You must 
have realised by now that even to implement the simplest logic circuits you 
absolutely must have some basic level of understanding.

Also try to draw your circuit schematics the same way as others do (you will 
pick this up automatically whilst you learn about them, eg ICs like this are 
usually drawn vertically, not horizontally).  Others will be more likely to 
help you if they don't have to spend time deciphering which wires are 
connected to what.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Electronics activity
Date: 25 May 2010 06:31:29
Message: <4bfba701@news.povray.org>
> Ironically, the biggest problem was actually *wires*. I bought a box of 

> nice compartmental box and there's quite a lot of wire in it, each length 
> in a different colour, with the ends neatly bent to a right-angle.) 
> Unfortunately, the wire is so utterly stiff and unbendable that I had a 
> lot of trouble using it.

It is meant to be like that, so you can plug it straight into the 
breadboard.  If you really need to bend it then get a pair of needle nose 
pliers and make a neat bend.  Those pliers are also very useful for plugging 
in and removing the very shortest wires.

> Makes it kinda hard to rest the ends of the wires on both battery 
> terminals simultaneously when they're utterly rigid though.

That's what battery holders are for.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Electronics activity
Date: 25 May 2010 06:46:18
Message: <4bfbaa7a$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> Dude, really, you are going to fall over yourself over and over again if 
> you refuse to learn at least some basic analogue circuit electronics.  
> You must have realised by now that even to implement the simplest logic 
> circuits you absolutely must have some basic level of understanding.

So what you're saying is that there is basically no way I will ever get 
this to work, and I should just give up now?


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