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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Sneakernet
Date: 29 Apr 2010 10:32:50
Message: <4bd99892@news.povray.org>
Fredrik Eriksson wrote:

> Why do you assume I am using ADSL?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTTB
> 
> Even if I did use ADSL(2+), I would still be able to get 24 Mbps.

I assumed it wouldn't be FTTB or ADSL2+ because, as far as I'm aware, 
nobody has actually deployed these technologies yet. I've read about 
companies who say they're *going* to do it someday, but I'm not aware of 
anywhere that has actually *done* so yet.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Sneakernet
Date: 29 Apr 2010 10:51:25
Message: <4bd99ced$1@news.povray.org>
> I assumed it wouldn't be FTTB or ADSL2+ because, as far as I'm aware, 
> nobody has actually deployed these technologies yet. I've read about 
> companies who say they're *going* to do it someday, but I'm not aware of 
> anywhere that has actually *done* so yet.

ADSL2+ is available pretty much everywhere here in Germany.  If I paid 10 
euro more per month I could have 16 Mbit/s instead of 8.  Also if I lived 
about 5 km closer to Munich I could get VDSL2 which is 50 Mbit/s :-D

It seems some companies are using ADSL2+ in the UK in limited areas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSL2%2B#United_Kingdom

In some UK places you can also get internet via cable (I had this while I 
lived in Oxford).  Last time I checked you could get 10 Mbit/s that way, 
probably higher now.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Sneakernet
Date: 29 Apr 2010 10:57:45
Message: <4bd99e69$1@news.povray.org>
>> I assumed it wouldn't be FTTB or ADSL2+ because, as far as I'm aware, 
>> nobody has actually deployed these technologies yet. I've read about 
>> companies who say they're *going* to do it someday, but I'm not aware 
>> of anywhere that has actually *done* so yet.
> 
> ADSL2+ is available pretty much everywhere here in Germany.  If I paid 
> 10 euro more per month I could have 16 Mbit/s instead of 8.  Also if I 
> lived about 5 km closer to Munich I could get VDSL2 which is 50 Mbit/s :-D

50 Mbit/sec... That's just trippy.

If they ever do replace all the copper with fiber, access to the 
Internet should get a lot faster. (I always thought it was silly that I 
was accessing the Internet using an infrastructure designed for narrow 
bandwidth voice coms, but hey...) Don't hold your breath for that 
anytime soon.

> It seems some companies are using ADSL2+ in the UK in limited areas:

It says which companies, doesn't seem to say where. Presumably only 
inside London at the moment.

> In some UK places you can also get internet via cable (I had this while 
> I lived in Oxford).  Last time I checked you could get 10 Mbit/s that 
> way, probably higher now.

I've only seen one person who had this, and she was on 2 Mbit/sec. 
Still, one person isn't a large sample size, and it was a while ago now.


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From: Fredrik Eriksson
Subject: Re: Sneakernet
Date: 29 Apr 2010 11:02:06
Message: <op.vbxiprna7bxctx@toad.bredbandsbolaget.se>
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:32:49 +0200, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>
> I assumed it wouldn't be FTTB or ADSL2+ because, as far as I'm aware,  
> nobody has actually deployed these technologies yet.

As usual, you assume incorrectly.



> I've read about companies who say they're *going* to do it someday, but  
> I'm not aware of anywhere that has actually *done* so yet.

You need to read more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITU_G.992.5#Deployment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_premises_by_country



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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Sneakernet
Date: 29 Apr 2010 11:06:22
Message: <4bd9a06e@news.povray.org>
>> I've read about companies who say they're *going* to do it someday, 
>> but I'm not aware of anywhere that has actually *done* so yet.
> 
> You need to read more.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITU_G.992.5#Deployment
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_premises_by_country

...so it's just a case of the UK being behind the rest of the world then?

(Also, notice how Fibercity is being trialled in Bournemouth, 
*Northampton* and Dundee. Not Milton Keynes, but Northampton. God only 
knows why everything happens in Northampton, not Milton Keynes...)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Sneakernet
Date: 29 Apr 2010 12:44:32
Message: <4bd9b770@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> significantly faster than any possible broadband connection.

http://aws.amazon.com/importexport/

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Sneakernet
Date: 29 Apr 2010 12:46:22
Message: <4bd9b7de@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> God only knows why everything happens in Northampton, not Milton Keynes...)

They know you live there, and they don't like *you*.

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   Linux: Now bringing the quality and usability of
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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Sneakernet
Date: 29 Apr 2010 12:48:45
Message: <4bd9b86d$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible escreveu:
> A single-layer DVD apparently holds about 4.7 GB of data. So ten of them 
> would hold about 47 GB.
> 
> That means that if I burn 10 DVDs and mail them to somebody, and it 
> takes 2 days for them to arrive, I have just achieved an average data 
> transfer rate of about 1 GB/hour. (About 0.2 MB/sec.)
> 
> But hey, why burn 10 DVDs when you can just buy a cheap HD and mail 
> that? (I'm guessing at this point the weight starts to become 

> takes 2 days for that to turn up, that's around 23 Mbit/sec - 
> significantly faster than any possible broadband connection.

the problem is that packet loss is not as cheap as with networked data...

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Sneakernet
Date: 29 Apr 2010 12:58:43
Message: <4bd9bac3$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New escreveu:
> Invisible wrote:
>> God only knows why everything happens in Northampton, not Milton 
>> Keynes...)
> 
> They know you live there, and they don't like *you*.

LOL

that's obviously impossible! :D

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Sneakernet
Date: 29 Apr 2010 13:14:15
Message: <4bd9be67$1@news.povray.org>
>> significantly faster than any possible broadband connection.
> 
> http://aws.amazon.com/importexport/

Now that's what I'm talking about... :-D

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