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From: Warp
Subject: Re: New car
Date: 4 Feb 2010 14:22:29
Message: <4b6b1e75@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> Me too!
> http://www.zbxt.net/~aero/saab/sc_front.jpg
> http://www.zbxt.net/~aero/saab/sc_back.jpg

  Some vandal went and ruined your license plates!

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: New car
Date: 4 Feb 2010 14:27:42
Message: <4b6b1fae@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> 
>   Some vandal went and ruined your license plates!
> 

Yes, they really are everywhere...

-Aero


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: New car
Date: 4 Feb 2010 15:29:08
Message: <4b6b2e14@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Still, my new
>> car has a superior turning circle and sharper power steering. (Now if
>> only selecting reverse wasn't so hard and the clutch worked properly...)
>>
> 
> You haven't driven Volvo 940/960 or even 740/760, have you? ;)

http://www.xkcd.com/671/

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: New car
Date: 4 Feb 2010 15:32:30
Message: <4b6b2ede$1@news.povray.org>
>> Clean the driver-side wiper. If that doesn't help, change it.
> 
> That, and scrub the road grease off the window.  And clean the other 
> wiper while you're at it, if it pushes into the space used by the 
> driver's side wiper.

I've yet to meet a car where the wipers *don't* leave smears. My 
previous two cars have both had dozens of wiper blades, all to no avail.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: New car
Date: 4 Feb 2010 15:35:31
Message: <4b6b2f93$1@news.povray.org>
>> Oh yeah, like they're *really* going to let some college kid test-drive
>> a £400,000 car. :-P
> 
> Neither one of those is a £400000 car. Or if was, Saab wouldn't be in
> financial problems :-).
> 
> Mind you, I recall we're about the same age (I was born in late 1981)
> and I just bought a 9-3 TiDS. TTiD costs only 3000€ more in Finland.

I *was* going to buy a Mazda RX8. Almost the same price. [Obviously both 
are second-hand.] It has a 3.0 L Wankel engine, agressive styling, 
bucket seats, the whole lot.

...but then I took it for a test drive. Man, it JUST DOESN'T MOVE!

I have since found out that the road tax alone is £500/year - that's 
more than my *insurance*! o_O

>> Still, the only vehicle I've come across that had a turbo was a busted
>> old Land Rover that was, like, 30 years old or something and rusting
>> apart... Maybe they've improved since then?
> 
> I don't think Land Rover had turbos 30 years ago (not sure though).

Well maybe it just *looked* 30 years old then. It was really, really 
rusty. (But then, it was a Land Rover.) For example, there was a hole 
under the accelerator pedal where you can watch the road go past below.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Manual mayhem
Date: 4 Feb 2010 15:41:59
Message: <4b6b3117$1@news.povray.org>
>> And another thing. Does anybody remember when if you wanted to fit
>> seatbelts, you just went to B&Q, bought some seatbelts, and bolted them
>> to the car? 
> 
> OTOH you now have officially room for 5 passengers (really for 4) and
> also seatbelts for 5 passengers. Why would you fit more of them?

Once upon a time, some cars actually didn't *have* seatbelts, and so 
you'd have to go fit them. But yeah, today that doesn't happen much. My 
point is really that you now cannot modify almost any aspect of the car 
because there's so much high-tech stuff in there.

> Isn't it actually a *good* thing that it's a lot safer than your old car?

Sure is! I guess it got five stars from NCAP for a reason. (That would 
also explain the huge door pillars that obscure the view of the road...)

It just means that if you want to make any modifications at all, you 
have to go through Renault, which limits choice and increases the price. 
(Not to mention that we don't *have* Renault dealers in England...)

>> Now manufacturers *always* want you to use their own parts. They make
>> way more money that way. And I'm pretty sure that no matter what the
>> manual says, putting non-approved engine oil into my engine isn't going
>> to destroy it (provided that it's of the correct type). 
> 
> Yep. It just can void the warranty.

My car doesn't *have* a warranty anyway. ;-)

>> You're supposed to get the crash sensors and air bag pyrotechnics
>> checked annually - which can only be done by specially-trained Renault
>> technitions with specialist equipment.
> 
> That's probably in the service program, right?

Probably. If I had one.

>> Mine evidently has the automatic option, since it wipes every 20
>> seconds, but now and then it suddenly starts frantically trying to file
>> through the glass! o_O
> 
> If you have a properly working automatic wiper option, you simply don't
> need to touch the lever yourself except for some rare wipe-once
> -situations - just keep it in the automatic position.

Doesn't work like that. Like I say, automatic seems to just mean "random 
speed". Doesn't appear to be related to the road conditions in any way. 
(Although I presume if it were to rain really hard, the wipers would 
speed up.) The long and short of it is that if I find that I can't see, 
I need the wipers to wipe NOW, not in 20 seconds' time.

>> This is probably THE single most annoying feature. It's raining, you
>> stop at some traffic lights, and suddenly you can't see ANYTHING.
> 
> Yes, that sounds stupid.

It is.

>> And the middle part of the back seat folds out into a table with cup
>> holders. WTF?
> 
> If you'll take some nice girl to a car-picnic and it starts to rain, you
> can benefit from that table ;-).

If I *ever* get a nice girl to sit in my car, I'm not sure they'll be 
any picnic stuff happening. 0;-)

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: New car
Date: 4 Feb 2010 15:48:53
Message: <4b6b32b5$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> I've yet to meet a car where the wipers *don't* leave smears. My 
> previous two cars have both had dozens of wiper blades, all to no avail.

That's why you have to scrub the road grease off.

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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Forget "focus follows mouse." When do
   I get "focus follows gaze"?


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: New car
Date: 4 Feb 2010 15:56:38
Message: <4b6b3486$1@news.povray.org>
>> I've yet to meet a car where the wipers *don't* leave smears. My 
>> previous two cars have both had dozens of wiper blades, all to no avail.
> 
> That's why you have to scrub the road grease off.

And how do you do that?

If the car wash can't shift it, and two young Polish lads with buckets 
can't scrub it off, I'm not sure what else to try...

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From: DungBeatle
Subject: Re: New car
Date: 4 Feb 2010 16:11:44
Message: <4b6b3810$1@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:4b6b2ede$1@news.povray.org...
> >> Clean the driver-side wiper. If that doesn't help,
change it.
> >
> > That, and scrub the road grease off the window.  And
clean the other
> > wiper while you're at it, if it pushes into the space
used by the
> > driver's side wiper.
>
> I've yet to meet a car where the wipers *don't* leave
smears. My
> previous two cars have both had dozens of wiper blades,
all to no avail.

Have you tried Rain-X? It gets good reviews from actual
users.

http://www.rainx.com/

http://www.epinions.com/reviews/Rain_X_Glass_Treatment_and_Cleaner

Demonstration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1S_Jm_FwM0

Some people love it, some don't...
Rain-X people also make wipers.
~db


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From: DungBeatle
Subject: Re: New car
Date: 4 Feb 2010 16:13:30
Message: <4b6b387a$1@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:4b6b2f93$1@news.povray.org...
> For example, there was a hole
> under the accelerator pedal where you can watch the road
go past below.

A Flintstone car? :)
~db


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