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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Quizzical fact: I passed my car driving test first time, in about 10
>> minutes, after one driving lesson and driving through a red traffic
>> light and parking on the pavement (sidewalk) in a major city.
>>
>> How?
>
> The instructor had a fatal myocardial infarction?
>
> Heh, my sister did a handbrake turn during her test. She didn't pass.
>
> I reversed over the kerb. Twice. I passed. Don't really understand that...
>
> (I also don't understand why one of the manouvers they get you to
> demonstrate is reversing around a corner. This has to be the MOST STUPID
> THING EVER. You should NEVER, EVER do this in real life! So... WTF?)
>
After my time, that one.
But it is not uncommon to reverse around a corner. It is an acceptable
way to reverse direction, reverse into a side street then turn right.
--
Best Regards,
Stephen
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On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:37:40 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> How?
Your examiner was blind? ;-)
Jim
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On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:49:21 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> None of these problems occur with slot-load drives.
>>
>> Wait, what? ;-)
>
> *sigh* Tray-load. Sheesh...
Well,that's what I thought you meant, but it was funny to see you saying
slot load drives were so problematic, but none of those problems existed
with a slot load drive. ;-)
> About the only thing that can go wrong with a tray-load drive is if the
> disk isn't sitting in it properly, and it gets mashed when the tray
> tries to shut. USUALLY the servo system notices this and stops trying to
> shut the door. Depending on how cheap the drive is...
I don't think I've ever seen a tray-load player in a car. Magazine load,
yes (for a changer), but never a tray-load.
Jim
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On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:39:57 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:10:42 -0500, Warp wrote:
>>
>>>> Well, I don't know about Dre, but I've never had a problem with CDs
>>>> being damaged through a slot-loading CD player in my car (or
>>>> anywhere, for that matter).
>>> Yeah, but where will you put your cup then?
>>
>> My car came with cup holders - I splurged. ;-)
>>
>>
> Mine came with fish and chip holders as standard ;)
Cool. I wish we had a good place for fish & chips here.
Jim
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
news:4b69401a@news.povray.org...
> Dre wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> It's got a CD-changer in the front, which is nice. It's slot-loading
>>> though, so any CDs you put in it are likely to get ruined.
>> <snip>
>>
>> O_o
>>
>> This logic astounds me!
>
> In what way?
In the "its a slot load drive" therefore "it will likely ruin my CD's" way.
Sorry but thats a crock of s**t!
If you can ruin a CD in a slot load drive you aren't using it properly.
All the slot load drives I have ever seen you can load and eject the CD with
one of your fingers in the hole, so no finger prints. You can also grab it
by the edges which also dont leave any fingerprints.
The servo arm that holds the CD is covered in rubber so doesn't scratch
discs. Not to mention, I've never seen one thats been jammed. I've also
never heard of a drive where you have to bend the disc to load, that sounds
broken.
One thing that slot load drives dont let you do that tray drives do is let
the draw jam the cd between it and the front panel if the CD isn't placed in
the center correctly. When this happens, you get bad scratches on the disc.
This has only ever happened to me with older IDE type drives where software
has closed the tray while I was loading a disc. PITA!
Cheers Dre
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"Dre" <and### [at] gmail com> wrote in message
news:4b6a0ed3@news.povray.org...
> In the "its a slot load drive" therefore "it will likely
ruin my CD's" way.
> Sorry but thats a crock of s**t!
>
> If you can ruin a CD in a slot load drive you aren't using
it properly.
>
> All the slot load drives I have ever seen you can load and
eject the CD with
> one of your fingers in the hole, so no finger prints. You
can also grab it
> by the edges which also dont leave any fingerprints.
I have a slot CD player that won't always release my CDs.
Sometimes the CDs get stuck and often get scratched trying
to remove them. 2001 Subaru Legacy, Outback... I don't use
the CD player any more either...
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:37:40 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> How?
>
> Your examiner was blind? ;-)
>
Nor drunk.
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Stephen
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> I don't think I've ever seen a tray-load player in a car. Magazine load,
> yes (for a changer), but never a tray-load.
Likewise.
My mum's first PC had a slot-load drive too, and it didn't work very well.
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> In the "its a slot load drive" therefore "it will likely ruin my CD's" way.
> Sorry but thats a crock of s**t!
>
> If you can ruin a CD in a slot load drive you aren't using it properly.
>
> All the slot load drives I have ever seen you can load and eject the CD with
> one of your fingers in the hole, so no finger prints. You can also grab it
> by the edges which also dont leave any fingerprints.
I've yet to see a slot-load drive that ejects the disk far enough to get
at the hole in the center. So the only way to pull it out is to grab it
by the edge (hopefully beyond the edge of the data track...)
> The servo arm that holds the CD is covered in rubber so doesn't scratch
> discs.
Sometimes the servo fails to detect that you're inserting a disk, and
you have to force it a little before it wakes up and starts the loading
process. Similarly, sometimes you have to yank the disk pretty hard
before you can remove it. If the drive lets go suddenly and the disk
touches the sides of the slot, instant scratches.
Admittedly, it's not as bad as tying the CDs to the back of your car and
taking a trip down the motorway. But I dislike having *any* scratches on
my CDs which I've paid for.
> I've also
> never heard of a drive where you have to bend the disc to load, that sounds
> broken.
Well, poorly designed or manufactured at the very minimum.
> One thing that slot load drives dont let you do that tray drives do is let
> the draw jam the cd between it and the front panel if the CD isn't placed in
> the center correctly. When this happens, you get bad scratches on the disc.
> This has only ever happened to me with older IDE type drives where software
> has closed the tray while I was loading a disc. PITA!
This is the only disadvantage of tray load. The disk must be sitting in
the tray properly before you close the tray. If the tray suddenly
decides to close of its own accord, you'll usually have a problem. But
on any sensible tray-load drive, the tray doesn't close until you press
the button. I very rarely have problems with it.
(Arguably the best ones are laptop drives, where the tray isn't even
motorised, and you have to clip the CD onto the spindle. You can readily
verify when it's clipped in place, and you can't possibly close the tray
by mistake...)
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"Remember that a collision at 30 MPH is the same as falling a distance
of 10 meters. Expressed in other terms, transporting a child without a
restraint is the equivalent of allowing them to play on a forth-floor
balcony without railings."
Hmm. A fall from a fourth-floor balcony might not be fatal. But you can
bet there's gonna be broken bones! :-D (Altough if you fall of a
balcony, you'll presumably hit concrete. The insane of a car is softer
than that.)
"Under no circumstances should babies of children be allowed to travel
sitting on the knees of another passenger. If a frontal impact occurs at
30 MPH, a child weighing 30 Kg will be transformed into a missile the
equivalent of one ton. You will find it impossible to hold the child,
even if you yourself are wearing a belt."
Well, that seems crystal clear to me! :-D I wander what happens if you
have an unrestrained labradore wandering around the car? (Like people
regularly do, every single day...)
"It is particularly dangerous to put the belt round your childn when
they are sitting on your lap."
OMG, WTF? PEOPLE DO THIS?? O_O
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