Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
> 
>> As somebody who actually lives in the UK, I think that church schools 
>> should be banned too.
> 
> They still have those?! Man...
> 



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Stephen <mca### [at] aoldotcom> wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> > Stephen wrote:
> > 
> >> As somebody who actually lives in the UK, I think that church schools 
> >> should be banned too.
> > 
> > They still have those?! Man...

> Just name a religion, C o E, catholic, Jewish, Muslim???

  The right for people to indocrinate their children into their own religion
is today as holy as it has always been. (The only difference is that now
there are more religions in the same places.) So don't expect those schools
to be banned anytime soon. Maybe in the next millenia.

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Warp wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aoldotcom> wrote:
>> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> As somebody who actually lives in the UK, I think that church schools 
>>>> should be banned too.
>>> They still have those?! Man...
> 
>> Just name a religion, C o E, catholic, Jewish, Muslim???
> 
>   The right for people to indocrinate their children into their own religion
> is today as holy as it has always been. (The only difference is that now
> there are more religions in the same places.) So don't expect those schools
> to be banned anytime soon. Maybe in the next millenia.
> 

One can only hope.

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Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
> 
>>>   Ok, it might not be "fair" that all children are not given the same
>>> opportunities, but do you really want to lower the overall education level
>>> of your entire country just in the name of "fairness"?
> 
>> As somebody who actually lives in the UK, I don't think banning private 
>> schools would do anything positive.
> 
>> Hypothetically, everybody should have an equal chance in life. Obviously 
>> this is impossible, but we can still strive to get as close to it as 
>> possible.
> 
>   I really do think that forcing "equal opportunity for everybody" by
> removing privileges from the rich is *not* the proper solution.

I think that was not the point of that article, but I seem to have lost 
the link somewhere in the long discussion.

> 
>   That's a bit like saying that everybody should have the same quality of
> vision, and to do that, we make everybody blind so that now truly everybody
> will be equal in terms of vision. That's just silly.
>

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>> Hypothetically, everybody should have an equal chance in life. Obviously 
>> this is impossible, but we can still strive to get as close to it as 
>> possible.
> 
>   I really do think that forcing "equal opportunity for everybody" by
> removing privileges from the rich is *not* the proper solution.
> 
>   That's a bit like saying that everybody should have the same quality of
> vision, and to do that, we make everybody blind so that now truly everybody
> will be equal in terms of vision. That's just silly.

Yes, yes it is. What we *should* of course be doing is making sure 
everybody has really awesome vision.

Oh, and really awesome schools. And shutting private schools doesn't 
advance this goal. (At least, not measurably.)

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Warp wrote:
>   That's a bit like saying that everybody should have the same quality of
> vision, and to do that, we make everybody blind so that now truly everybody
> will be equal in terms of vision. That's just silly.

Wasn't it Harlan Ellison who did a short story about that? And it's turning 
into a film now, I think?  I couldn't find the name of it, tho.

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Darren New wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>>   That's a bit like saying that everybody should have the same quality of
>> vision, and to do that, we make everybody blind so that now truly 
>> everybody
>> will be equal in terms of vision. That's just silly.
> 
> Wasn't it Harlan Ellison who did a short story about that? And it's 
> turning into a film now, I think?  I couldn't find the name of it, tho.
> 

Is that the story where dancers were weighed down by chains and weights 
and the protagonist rebelled and danced for all he was worth?

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Stephen wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>>   That's a bit like saying that everybody should have the same 
>>> quality of
>>> vision, and to do that, we make everybody blind so that now truly 
>>> everybody
>>> will be equal in terms of vision. That's just silly.
>>
>> Wasn't it Harlan Ellison who did a short story about that? And it's 
>> turning into a film now, I think?  I couldn't find the name of it, tho.
>>
> 
> Is that the story where dancers were weighed down by chains and weights 
> and the protagonist rebelled and danced for all he was worth?

That's the one I was thinking of, yes.

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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:07:18 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Stephen wrote:
>> 
>>> As somebody who actually lives in the UK, I think that church schools
>>> should be banned too.
>> 
>> They still have those?! Man...
>> 
>> 
> Just name a religion, C o E, catholic, Jewish, Muslim…

Jedi? ;-)

Jim

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Darren New wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>> Is that the story where dancers were weighed down by chains and
>> weights and the protagonist rebelled and danced for all he was worth?
> 
> That's the one I was thinking of, yes.
> 

Harrison Bergeron, Vonnegut.

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