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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: More power
Date: 22 Nov 2009 15:35:01
Message: <web.4b099fd6c9e18a496672c09b0@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>
> > I wonder - what would it cost to buy a twin 6-core Opteron or Xeon box?
>
> If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

I'd think an X-box is definitely cheaper. ;)


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: More power
Date: 22 Nov 2009 23:04:06
Message: <4b0a09b6$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis schrieb:

>>> I wonder - what would it cost to buy a twin 6-core Opteron or Xeon box?
>> If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
> 
> I'd think an X-box is definitely cheaper. ;)

I'd think even an X-box /cluster/ is cheaper ;-)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: More power
Date: 23 Nov 2009 04:32:18
Message: <4b0a56a2$1@news.povray.org>
>>> I wonder - what would it cost to buy a twin 6-core Opteron or Xeon box?
>> If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
> 
> I'd think an X-box is definitely cheaper. ;)

And a C64 is probably cheaper still. You're point?


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: More power
Date: 23 Nov 2009 23:32:05
Message: <4b0b61c5$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>>>> I wonder - what would it cost to buy a twin 6-core Opteron or Xeon box?
>>> If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
>> 
>> I'd think an X-box is definitely cheaper. ;)
> 
> And a C64 is probably cheaper still. You're point?

You can't compare the computing power of an Xbox360 (triple-core PowerPC 
3.2GHz, theoretical peak of 115 GFLOPS; and one hell of a GPU that I won't 
bother to describe) with the computing power of a C64.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: More power
Date: 24 Nov 2009 04:28:39
Message: <4b0ba747@news.povray.org>
>>>>> I wonder - what would it cost to buy a twin 6-core Opteron or Xeon box?
>>>> If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
>>> I'd think an X-box is definitely cheaper. ;)
>> And a C64 is probably cheaper still. You're point?
> 
> You can't compare the computing power of an Xbox360 (triple-core PowerPC 
> 3.2GHz, theoretical peak of 115 GFLOPS; and one hell of a GPU that I won't 
> bother to describe) with the computing power of a C64.

Interesting. I wasn't aware PowerPC was still extant.

Regardless, the Xbos360 is a games machine. It's not like you can just 
fire up a copy of POV-Ray on it.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: More power
Date: 24 Nov 2009 07:29:34
Message: <4b0bd1ae$1@news.povray.org>
> Regardless, the Xbos360 is a games machine. It's not like you can just 
> fire up a copy of POV-Ray on it.

Dunno about the XBox, but you can put a Linux on the PS3 very easily (Sony 
give you a "boot other OS" menu option).  Compiling POV on the PS3 shouldn't 
be beyond the reach of a Linux-literate person.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: More power
Date: 24 Nov 2009 09:02:13
Message: <4b0be765@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> Regardless, the Xbos360 is a games machine. It's not like you can just
>> fire up a copy of POV-Ray on it.
> 
> Dunno about the XBox, but you can put a Linux on the PS3 very easily (Sony
> give you a "boot other OS" menu option).  Compiling POV on the PS3
> shouldn't be beyond the reach of a Linux-literate person.

The PS3 has a menu item labeled "install another OS". The Xbox360 has all 
sorts of protections to ensure you can't run software that hasn't been 
digitally signed by Microsoft.

It's quite a contrast.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: More power
Date: 24 Nov 2009 10:40:16
Message: <4b0bfe60@news.povray.org>
> The PS3 has a menu item labeled "install another OS". The Xbox360 has all
> sorts of protections to ensure you can't run software that hasn't been
> digitally signed by Microsoft.

Really? I was considering getting an xbox because with the XNA game studio 
it seems you can compile programs for the xbox.  Can you not run these on 
your xbox then?


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: More power
Date: 24 Nov 2009 11:45:05
Message: <4b0c0d91$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> The PS3 has a menu item labeled "install another OS". The Xbox360 has all
>> sorts of protections to ensure you can't run software that hasn't been
>> digitally signed by Microsoft.
> 
> Really? I was considering getting an xbox because with the XNA game 
> studio it seems you can compile programs for the xbox.  Can you not run 
> these on your xbox then?
> 
> 

Sure, you can, and it works great.  But you can't compile random code 
for the XBox... it needs to be C#, and use  the XNA framework.

If you want to be able to compile random C++ code then I believe you 
need a dev kit.

...Chambers


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From: scott
Subject: Re: More power
Date: 25 Nov 2009 02:57:07
Message: <4b0ce353$1@news.povray.org>
> Sure, you can, and it works great.  But you can't compile random code for 
> the XBox... it needs to be C#, and use  the XNA framework.
>
> If you want to be able to compile random C++ code then I believe you need 
> a dev kit.

Ah OK I see, I didn't realise the (free) compiler for the xbox only accepted 
C# with the XNA framework - would take quite a lot of work to port POV to C# 
I suppose :-)


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