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>> Sure, if you build a highly custom UI of your own rather than using
>> the OS, you can implement whatever you like. But that's hardly an OS
>> feature. ;-)
>
> I mean, there were flags for controlling whether your window got the
> title bar and such, yes? At least I *think* so.
Year, you can turn off the titlebar (usually only for a splash screen),
the close button, the resize gadget, and so forth. It's just that
programs typically didn't do this.
> Of course, lots of programs that wanted to be "modal" just opened an
> entire screen. ;-)
...or that, yes. ;-)
However, screens can be rearranged. :-D
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Invisible wrote:
> Year, you can turn off the titlebar (usually only for a splash screen),
> the close button, the resize gadget, and so forth. It's just that
> programs typically didn't do this.
Yes, because AmigaOS wasn't a PITA to run multiple threads in one program
that didn't get screwed up by unusual interactions with multiple windows. ;-)
Contrast with MacOS or Win3.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Is God willing to prevent phrogams, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing, to prevent phrogams?
Then he is malevolent.
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Darren New wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Pretty sure AmigaOS doesn't support model dialogs.
>
> Heck, even *I* remember that AmigaOS had model dialogs. Now, most of the
> workbench-level software didn't use them, but I remember the apps having
> them. (I wonder if I could still find my old Amiga OS books...)
Funny how you misspelled "modal dialogs" the same way as him.
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Darren New wrote:
> clipka wrote:
>> Ah well, and did I mention that KDE4 uses a totally different font size
>> in a XDMCP login than it does when logged in locally?
>
> Don't fonts always come from the local machine? Or did they fix this in X
> by now?
X has a "font server" for sure. But I have no idea how it works. I never
used remote X for serious purposes.
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On 11/17/09 07:38, Invisible wrote:
> The other thing that annoys me is the scroll wheel. Why oh why oh WHY
> does it NEVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, SCROLL THE THING YOU WANT TO
> SCROLL?! >_<
>
> This is so exasperating! I point at something, scroll the wheel, and
> some unrelated item somewhere else on the screen scrolls. WTF? The most
Because you didn't give it focus. As Darren mentioned, you can switch
to point-to-focus, and then it'll likely work.
en!
--
Be independent! No, not that way! This way!
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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Funny how you misspelled "modal dialogs" the same way as him.
That can happen when the word is right in front of your face, yes. I fixed
it in the other post. :-)
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Is God willing to prevent phrogams, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing, to prevent phrogams?
Then he is malevolent.
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waiting for the "Blender sucks" daily povray newsgroups bash tomorrow.
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nemesis wrote:
> waiting for the "Blender sucks" daily povray newsgroups bash tomorrow.
Diff'rent strokes... For me personally, I quickly get irritated whenever I
have to do something in XP (like use Moray - I simply can't get it going
well under wine) and I have to leave the happy cocoon of KDE 4 for a few
moments.
XP, 7 or Vista feels dated and slow. Granted, that is in standard "as
installed" versions, with no tweaks or additional apps. I find KDE much
better and faster on Fedora 11.
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Stefan Viljoen
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Stefan Viljoen wrote:
> I quickly get irritated whenever I have to do something in XP
I just had to replace my monitor today. I got a nice new widescreen thingie
to work with, etc. And I discovered something interesting.
I'm annoyed by bad design, not by the difficulty of accomplishing a task.
It annoyed me that the connector for the old monitor took 3 minutes to get
disconnected because it was screwed down and the designer of the connector
put an unmovable flange a quarter inch over the screw.
It didn't annoy me at all that the new connector wouldn't fit thru the hole
in the desk I'd drilled and it took me half an hour of work with a file to
enlarge it the 2mm it took to slide the connector through.
It doesn't bother me that it takes an hour to back up the laptop. It bothers
me that opening "my computer" takes 30 seconds because all the drives for
the developers are shared over the same internet connection they're
streaming sample video over to hundreds of testers.
I knew I got pissed easily at pretty trivially annoying stuff, but I never
realized it was trivial *needlessly* annoying stuff that did it.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Is God willing to prevent phrogams, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing, to prevent phrogams?
Then he is malevolent.
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Darren New wrote:
> Stefan Viljoen wrote:
>> I quickly get irritated whenever I have to do something in XP
>
> I just had to replace my monitor today. I got a nice new widescreen
> thingie
> to work with, etc. And I discovered something interesting.
>
> I'm annoyed by bad design, not by the difficulty of accomplishing a task.
>
> It annoyed me that the connector for the old monitor took 3 minutes to get
> disconnected because it was screwed down and the designer of the connector
> put an unmovable flange a quarter inch over the screw.
>
> It didn't annoy me at all that the new connector wouldn't fit thru the
> hole in the desk I'd drilled and it took me half an hour of work with a
> file to enlarge it the 2mm it took to slide the connector through.
>
> It doesn't bother me that it takes an hour to back up the laptop. It
> bothers me that opening "my computer" takes 30 seconds because all the
> drives for the developers are shared over the same internet connection
> they're streaming sample video over to hundreds of testers.
>
> I knew I got pissed easily at pretty trivially annoying stuff, but I never
> realized it was trivial *needlessly* annoying stuff that did it.
I feel much the same. "My" equivalent irritation with Linux that I can admit
to though is - erm... I don't have a name for the phenomenon.
Whenever I'm at work, and for some reason the internet connection goes down,
for no reason I can fathom, MySQL control center starts taking a minute
(literally - 60 seconds, I've timed it!) to open any MySQL table on the
machine. Conversely, emacs takes up to two minutes to start.
I've done /sbin/ifconfigs as a test once, and I can't see that -anything-
passes over the ethernet connection that is relevant. I've not etherealed
yet, probably need to.
However, the moment connectivity is back (I can ping something, anything on
the internet) my MySQL control center starts working at "instant" speed
again, and emacs starts instantly as well.
I've searched the hell out this, but nobody I've so far been able to find
that responded to posts, or nobody else I could google about, have ever
experienced this phenomenon.
I only use direct IP's no symbol resolution is required by either emacs or
MySQL control center. MySQL control center is setup to connect to the local
127.0.0.1 port, emacs is only used to edit files in the local home folder
(so no network pauses or anything seem to be involved.)
Obviously it MUST have something to do with DNS then? But I can find no
literature or mention of -WHY- this happens with my desktop.
It irritates the hell out of me, but apparently -only- my machine, with my
kernel (2.6.18.1) experiences this.
If it IS, in fact, DNS, I've not been able to find how to turn that kind of
timeout delay (which I think it must be) off somehow, without my system
refusing to do DNS queries entirely.
Mostly Linux has chosen to be friendly with me (the old "UNIX is picky whom
it makes friends with") but this is one thing that clouds the waters of our
relationship.
--
Stefan Viljoen
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