On 11/19/09 02:15, scott wrote:
> pre-existing results to "Engineer" run-of-the-mill stuff, or you
> actually want to work with cutting-edge concepts and develop new stuff.
> Me, I prefer the latter, but maybe that was just because of the way my
> degree was oriented.

	Except that in engineering over here, that often requires a Masters 
degree. People with bachelor's in engineering rarely do development. 
They may play some role in the process, but it's rare that they'll 
actually be key people in the design process.

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>> pre-existing results to "Engineer" run-of-the-mill stuff, or you
>> actually want to work with cutting-edge concepts and develop new stuff.
>> Me, I prefer the latter, but maybe that was just because of the way my
>> degree was oriented.
>
> Except that in engineering over here, that often requires a Masters 
> degree. People with bachelor's in engineering rarely do development. They 
> may play some role in the process, but it's rare that they'll actually be 
> key people in the design process.

Bachelor Engineering degrees don't really exist in the UK anymore, nearly 
all engineering degrees are Masters now.  Of course there are non-degree 
Engineering qualifications you can do which are probably more suited to the 
non-development stuff and not as theoretically based.

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On 11/20/09 03:13, scott wrote:
> Bachelor Engineering degrees don't really exist in the UK anymore,
> nearly all engineering degrees are Masters now. Of course there are
> non-degree Engineering qualifications you can do which are probably more
> suited to the non-development stuff and not as theoretically based.

	Which was my point all along. In the UK, I'm guessing those technical 
degrees (that are "less" than a Bachelor's) is not a rare thing. Over 
here, it's quite uncommon. The Bachelor's degree over here fills that 
role (and more advanced ones - it's quite broad).

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one. `Me, too` said the second. `Let's fly down and find some lunch.`
They flew to the ground and found a nice plot of plowed ground full of
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`I'm so full I don't think I can fly back up to the tree`, said the
first one. `Me either.  Let's just lay here and bask in the warm sun`,
said the second. `O.K.` said the first. They plopped down, basking in
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