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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics
Date: 3 Nov 2009 15:05:52
Message: <4AF08D20.5050006@hotmail.com>
On 2-11-2009 23:56, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> Why don't you try youtube and don't tell anybody I suggested that.
> 
> Why do you say don't tell anybody?
> 
Because it is rather likely that you will find an illegal upload?


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics
Date: 3 Nov 2009 15:21:05
Message: <4af090b1$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:04:53 +0100, andrel wrote:

> On 3-11-2009 18:58, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:35:50 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>> 
>>> She sings in a lot of pretty random languages.
>> 
>> English, Gaelic, and Latin IIRC.  That's pretty much it.
> 
> Neither of those is random. Gaelic spoken at home, English at school,
> and Latin in church. (at least I think that would be rather likely).

Yeah, I wouldn't have categorized them as "random" either.

Jim


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics
Date: 3 Nov 2009 15:23:08
Message: <4af0912c@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:35:50 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> 
>> She sings in a lot of pretty random languages.
> 
> English, Gaelic, and Latin IIRC.  That's pretty much it.

Also Japanese, Quenya, Spanish, Loxian, Welsh.

And she's awful purty--even being 48.  (Must admit to always having had 
a bit of a crush on her *blush*)

--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics
Date: 3 Nov 2009 15:29:50
Message: <4AF092BD.1050105@hotmail.com>
On 3-11-2009 19:56, Stephen wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:25:42 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game.  You could probably do the same
>>>> with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00nf3kr
>>>
>>> Pete Townshend talks about the influence on his songwriting of composer
>>> Henry Purcell.
>>>
>>> Unavailable after 13:30 GMT. :(
>>
>> That's a problem, then, just getting to this now. :-(
>>
>> Jim
> 
> Gone! And never called me mother!
> 
How should I parse that?

1) never called me 'mother'!
2) never called me. Mother!
3) never called my mother!

And what does it mean?


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics
Date: 3 Nov 2009 15:52:19
Message: <4AF09802.1030801@hotmail.com>
On 3-11-2009 21:23, Tim Cook wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:35:50 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>>
>>> She sings in a lot of pretty random languages.
>>
>> English, Gaelic, and Latin IIRC.  That's pretty much it.
> 
> Also Japanese, 
Didn't know that. Ok I must admit I listened more to her sisters.
> Quenya,

what? of to google... Ah, didn't know that. Hmm, no google preferences 
settings for this, while we do have Klingon? Someone does not have 
enough free time.

> Spanish,
Din't know that.
> Loxian,
What? otg... Ok I think that I couldn't have known that one
> Welsh.
why not

> And she's awful purty

otg... Ok, learned a new word today, metathesis.

> --even being 48.

hey, I am 47 and still... nevermind.

>  (Must admit to always having had a bit of a crush on her *blush*)

Do we need a comma between her and *blush*? What does the language 
police thinks about that?


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics
Date: 3 Nov 2009 15:54:50
Message: <4af0989a$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:56:57 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> 
>> Gone! And never called me mother!
> 
> Such a shame!
> 
> Jim

:(

-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics
Date: 3 Nov 2009 16:01:24
Message: <4AF09A23.40303@hotmail.com>
On 2-11-2009 20:48, andrel wrote:
> On 2-11-2009 20:19, clipka wrote:
>> Bill Pragnell schrieb:
>>> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>>>> I don't know Enya (or, well, maybe I just don't know the name), but if
>>>> bears /any/ resemblance to music from Clannad
>>>
>>> Vocally, a lot. She was with Clannad in their early days - she's a 
>>> Brennan.
>>
>> Ah! then maybe I've even heard something of her. And if not, then I 
>> probably should.
> 
> I think 'Orinoco flow' may be the most well known song by her. Why don't 
> you try youtube and don't tell anybody I suggested that.

A very probable legal version is at her own site 
http://www.enya.com/videos.php?vid=m

Sounds a bit different than the one I have on CD, though on relistening 
that version the difference is less that I initially though. Perhaps 
that is partly because I also sometimes listen to the Celtic Woman version?

Reminds me of something weird (at least to me). I recently rebought 
Kate & Anna McGarrigle I had it before and played it a lot but it was 
left with my ex girlfriend (almost 16 years ago). When listening I 
recognized the songs but had the feeling almost all arrangements were 
different. Normally I remember almost every note and every scratch.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics
Date: 3 Nov 2009 16:02:51
Message: <4af09a7b$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> On 3-11-2009 19:56, Stephen wrote:
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:25:42 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game.  You could probably do the same
>>>>> with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00nf3kr
>>>>
>>>> Pete Townshend talks about the influence on his songwriting of composer
>>>> Henry Purcell.
>>>>
>>>> Unavailable after 13:30 GMT. :(
>>>
>>> That's a problem, then, just getting to this now. :-(
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> Gone! And never called me mother!
>>
> How should I parse that?
> 
> 1) never called me 'mother'!
> 2) never called me. Mother!
> 3) never called my mother!
> 
> And what does it mean?

The lady’s son died before he knew that she was his mother. (Alcoholic 
poising IIRC) So number 1 is correct.
It is from the play of “East Lynne” a sensation novel by Mrs Henry Wood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Lynne


-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics
Date: 3 Nov 2009 16:18:37
Message: <4AF09E2C.8060101@hotmail.com>
On 3-11-2009 22:02, Stephen wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> On 3-11-2009 19:56, Stephen wrote:
>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:25:42 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's kinda like the "6 degrees" game.  You could probably do the same
>>>>>> with music influences to JS Bach. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00nf3kr
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete Townshend talks about the influence on his songwriting of 
>>>>> composer
>>>>> Henry Purcell.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unavailable after 13:30 GMT. :(
>>>>
>>>> That's a problem, then, just getting to this now. :-(
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Gone! And never called me mother!
>>>
>> How should I parse that?
>>
>> 1) never called me 'mother'!
>> 2) never called me. Mother!
>> 3) never called my mother!
>>
>> And what does it mean?
> 
> The lady’s son died before he knew that she was his mother. (Alcoholic 
> poising IIRC) So number 1 is correct.
> It is from the play of “East Lynne” a sensation novel by Mrs Henry Wood.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Lynne

Today I had a recurring discussion about the use of English in science. 
Someone had submitted a manuscript for correction to a native speaker. A 
number of the suggested corrections were good English but incorrect 
scientific/international English. Which reminded me that sometimes at 
conferences I have trouble understanding some Brits that wrongly assume 
that English is the language of the conference and that therefore can 
use any expression that they know. This would be a typical example.

BTW how did Ellen become Henri?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics
Date: 3 Nov 2009 16:23:06
Message: <4af09f3a$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> On 2-11-2009 23:56, Darren New wrote:
>> andrel wrote:
>>> Why don't you try youtube and don't tell anybody I suggested that.
>>
>> Why do you say don't tell anybody?
>>
> Because it is rather likely that you will find an illegal upload?

Most of the rock videos out there are actually legal. YouTube makes a lot of 
deals.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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