![](/i/fill.gif) |
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
>> http://phd.pp.ru/Texts/fun/english-poem.txt
>
> Genius. One or two of the couplets don't seem to rhyme properly - I wonder if
> that's not deliberate, or perhaps dependent on personal accent!
>
> I can indeed see this being murder for non-native, and challenging for most
> native English speakers...
>
>
I got stuck on a few homographs, and speed reading caught me a few
times. Then I got to ". . . Four . . . Arkansas".
I can not make those rhyme without butchering one or the other. Either
Ar-ken-saw becomes Ar-kens-ur, or Four becomes Fou. Maybe there is a
homograph of 'four' that I am missing? Or maybe I just need a proper
Queen's English accent to get that one.
Post a reply to this message
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
After trying to get my tongue untangled,
(which out of my mouth now dangled),
On to YouTube did I hie,
And behold, there did espy:
A young maiden, bright and fair,
With golden shimmer in her hair,
Undauntedly she offered battle,
Against the poem she'd test her mettle,
And victorious she has been,
A true pronunciation queen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1spqX4sIDo
Post a reply to this message
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
Darren New wrote:
> http://phd.pp.ru/Texts/fun/english-poem.txt
Words therein with which I'm not familiar:
sward, ague, Terpsichore, Balmoral, chalet(? might've seen it),
clangour, query doesn't rhyme with very? thought it did, Foeffer, (not
sure what a chaise is), aver, ere is right e'er, groats
(I used to think lichen was pronounced with ch as in chop when I was a
wee lad)
--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
Post a reply to this message
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
"Tim Cook" <z99### [at] gmail com> wrote in message
news:4ad9672e$1@news.povray.org...
> Darren New wrote:
>> http://phd.pp.ru/Texts/fun/english-poem.txt
>
> Words therein with which I'm not familiar:
> sward, ague, Terpsichore, Balmoral, chalet(? might've seen it), clangour,
> query doesn't rhyme with very? thought it did, Foeffer, (not sure what a
> chaise is), aver, ere is right e'er, groats
>
> (I used to think lichen was pronounced with ch as in chop when I was a wee
> lad)
>
That’s the “Trouble with Lichen” ;)
--
Stephen
Post a reply to this message
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
"Sabrina Kilian" <ski### [at] vt edu> wrote in message
news:4ad934db$1@news.povray.org...
> I can not make those rhyme without butchering one or the other. Either
> Ar-ken-saw becomes Ar-kens-ur, or Four becomes Fou. Maybe there is a
> homograph of 'four' that I am missing? Or maybe I just need a proper
> Queen's English accent to get that one.
As Bill said it depends on personal accent and I'll add regional and class
(there I go again :) to that.
Four and Ar-ken-saw do rhyme if you use a posh RP (Received Pronunciation)
English accent (fou-ar and saw-ar).
The girl reading the poem in TC's post did really well IMO.
--
Stephen
Post a reply to this message
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
Tim Cook wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> http://phd.pp.ru/Texts/fun/english-poem.txt
>
> Words therein with which I'm not familiar:
> sward, ague, Terpsichore, Balmoral, chalet(? might've seen it),
> clangour, query doesn't rhyme with very? thought it did, Foeffer, (not
> sure what a chaise is), aver, ere is right e'er, groats
>
> (I used to think lichen was pronounced with ch as in chop when I was a
> wee lad)
>
> --
> Tim Cook
> http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
...and to add a couple of names
Cholmondely - pron. Chumley
Featherstonehaugh - pron. Fanshaw
I'm sure Stephen could add a host of Scottish novelties
John
--
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei
Post a reply to this message
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
Stephen wrote:
> "Sabrina Kilian" <ski### [at] vt edu> wrote in message
> news:4ad934db$1@news.povray.org...
>
>> I can not make those rhyme without butchering one or the other. Either
>> Ar-ken-saw becomes Ar-kens-ur, or Four becomes Fou. Maybe there is a
>> homograph of 'four' that I am missing? Or maybe I just need a proper
>> Queen's English accent to get that one.
>
> As Bill said it depends on personal accent and I'll add regional and
> class (there I go again :) to that.
> Four and Ar-ken-saw do rhyme if you use a posh RP (Received
> Pronunciation) English accent (fou-ar and saw-ar).
>
> The girl reading the poem in TC's post did really well IMO.
>
Indeed she does. But I was not reading it in my 'deer ol Virginya home'
accent, I tend to slip in to that one only on rare occasion. Still, I
guess my RP accent is lacking what finishing touches I should have
received in finishing school, as I have never heard "four" pronounced in
two syllables.
Post a reply to this message
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
Doctor John wrote:
> ....and to add a couple of names
> Cholmondely - pron. Chumley
> Featherstonehaugh - pron. Fanshaw
>
> I'm sure Stephen could add a host of Scottish novelties
>
> John
No really John, Scots is written the way it sounds.
But it is the sounds…
For those outside the UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8308288.stm
--
Awrabest,
Stevie
Post a reply to this message
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
Stephen wrote:
> Doctor John wrote:
>
>> ....and to add a couple of names
>> Cholmondely - pron. Chumley
>> Featherstonehaugh - pron. Fanshaw
>>
>> I'm sure Stephen could add a host of Scottish novelties
>>
>> John
>
> No really John, Scots is written the way it sounds.
> But it is the sounds…
>
> For those outside the UK
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8308288.stm
>
>
Scone?? Skoon, Skone or Skon??
John
--
"Eppur si muove" - Galileo Galilei
Post a reply to this message
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>> The girl reading the poem in TC's post did really well IMO.
>>
>
> Indeed she does. But I was not reading it in my 'deer ol Virginya home'
> accent, I tend to slip in to that one only on rare occasion. Still, I
> guess my RP accent is lacking what finishing touches I should have
> received in finishing school,
LOL Get you! :P
> as I have never heard "four" pronounced in
> two syllables.
the upper class posh twits accent spot on. What ho gal!
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=859
--
Awrabest,
Stevie
Post a reply to this message
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
|
![](/i/fill.gif) |
| ![](/i/fill.gif) |