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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Tchaikovsky
Date: 2 Oct 2009 06:13:27
Message: <khkbc5t16o7q76g9aecqegl219kmdg4qge@4ax.com>
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:27:57 -0700, Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] uwashingtonedu>
wrote:

>
>Not trying to convince you to try it out of course -- I totally 
>understand why many people hate that sort of music.

Well I have tried to like modern classical music but it is very hard going on my
ears. I found that Benjamin Britain crept around my mental block with his Sea
Interludes from Peter Grimes. Also Wagner is OK if you don't think about what he
is saying, I draw the line at Mahler. I physically want to get up and leave. Sad
as I feel that I *should* enjoy it.
Now I am listening to a lot of Handle especially his Concerto Grosse. :D
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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Tchaikovsky
Date: 2 Oct 2009 06:24:04
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On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:32:21 -0700, Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] uwashingtonedu>
wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>> Thank you for that. May I respond with "Several Species Of Small Furry Animals
>> Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict"?
>
>Also, now that I've actually listened to this -- hilarious!  I didn't 
>realize it was an actual song at first and instead just thought you'd 
>made up the name as a parody of contemporary music (instead Pink Floyd 
>did that I suppose).

No I spent many hours listening to it in my youth. :D

How about "Set the controls for the heart of the Sun"?

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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Tchaikovsky
Date: 2 Oct 2009 06:26:23
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On 1 Oct 2009 18:00:08 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>> LOL, reminds me of the 1950s/60s jukebox record of 2.5 mins of silence
>> or the Picasso art where he sold signed blank pieces of paper.
>
>4:33 is one of my favourite Cage pieces. ;-)
>

Sorry to be a Philistine but paying money to see/hear that is a joke.

Typical Scots stereotype :P
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     Stephen


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Tchaikovsky
Date: 2 Oct 2009 06:46:38
Message: <4ac5da0e$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:

> How about "Set the controls for the heart of the Sun"?

Witness the man who waves at the wall,
Making the shape of his question to heaven,
Whether the Sun will fall in the evening,
Will he remember the lesson of giving?
Set the controls for the heart of the Sun.

The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The 
heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart 
of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the 
Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. 
The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun...



Lucifer Sam, anyone?

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Tchaikovsky
Date: 2 Oct 2009 08:06:32
Message: <45rbc55v62bto5gdkbvebtcm1m1bcfn8ss@4ax.com>
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:46:38 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>
>> How about "Set the controls for the heart of the Sun"?
>
>Witness the man who waves at the wall,
>Making the shape of his question to heaven,
>Whether the Sun will fall in the evening,
>Will he remember the lesson of giving?
>Set the controls for the heart of the Sun.
>
>The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The 
>heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart 
>of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the 
>Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. 
>The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun...
>
>

So you do know how to use Google :P
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     Stephen


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Tchaikovsky
Date: 2 Oct 2009 11:13:40
Message: <4ac618a4$1@news.povray.org>
>> Witness the man who waves at the wall,
>> Making the shape of his question to heaven,
>> Whether the Sun will fall in the evening,
>> Will he remember the lesson of giving?
>> Set the controls for the heart of the Sun.
>>
>> The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The 
>> heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart 
>> of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the 
>> Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. 
>> The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun. The heart of the Sun...
> 
> So you do know how to use Google :P

Why would I need that? I have the sleeve notes right next to me. :-P

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Tchaikovsky
Date: 2 Oct 2009 12:05:46
Message: <4ac624da$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:26:17 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 1 Oct 2009 18:00:08 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>> LOL, reminds me of the 1950s/60s jukebox record of 2.5 mins of silence
>>> or the Picasso art where he sold signed blank pieces of paper.
>>
>>4:33 is one of my favourite Cage pieces. ;-)
>>
>>
> Sorry to be a Philistine but paying money to see/hear that is a joke.
> 
> Typical Scots stereotype :P

Oh, I never said I'd pay money to see/hear it. ;-)

But I've heard it several times myself - in fact, you could say, I've 
performed it several times (never for an audience, though - and certainly 
never for profit).

Jim


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: Tchaikovsky
Date: 2 Oct 2009 16:35:16
Message: <4ac66404$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:27:57 -0700, Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] uwashingtonedu>
> wrote:
> 
>> Not trying to convince you to try it out of course -- I totally 
>> understand why many people hate that sort of music.
> 
> Well I have tried to like modern classical music but it is very hard going on my
> ears. I found that Benjamin Britain crept around my mental block with his Sea
> Interludes from Peter Grimes. Also Wagner is OK if you don't think about what he
> is saying, I draw the line at Mahler. I physically want to get up and leave. Sad
> as I feel that I *should* enjoy it.

That's odd -- I've never thought of Mahler as being particularly taxing 
to listen to.  It the tonality of the music actually grating to listen 
to or is it more that the large-scale structures bother you?

> Now I am listening to a lot of Handle especially his Concerto Grosse. :D

Good stuff!  Despite that I do really like modern music, I still spend 
most of my time listening to stuff more like this (well, this through 
late Romantic).

If baroque or classical style is more to your liking but you're still 
interested in listening to some more modernish composers without the 
earache you might take a listen to Prokofiev's Symphony No.1, 
Villa-Lobos' Bachianas Brasileiras (no.5 is the best known here), or 
some of Busoni's Bach transcriptions (his arrangement of the famous 
Chaconne for violin in particular is quite well known) to name a few.


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: Tchaikovsky
Date: 2 Oct 2009 16:42:16
Message: <4ac665a8@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
>> Stephen wrote:
>>> Thank you for that. May I respond with "Several Species Of Small Furry Animals
>>> Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict"?
> No I spent many hours listening to it in my youth. :D

And you say you don't like avant-garde music :-)

> How about "Set the controls for the heart of the Sun"?

I have heard this one (and quite like it).  I really should get a few 
more Pink Floyd albums though, it's just that there's already so much 
music in my queue to buy.

I'm always impressed by how little their sound has aged over the years. 
  Most bands who have stuff that old have a pretty "dated" sound to me 
now, but somehow Pink Floyd manages to still manages to sound like it 
could have been made recently.


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: Tchaikovsky
Date: 2 Oct 2009 17:44:01
Message: <4ac67421$1@news.povray.org>

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>  Most bands who have stuff that old have a pretty "dated" sound to me now,

You mean like the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, the 
Kinks, the Who, Frank Zappa...?

Marc


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