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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 23 Jun 2009 16:43:53
Message: <4a413e89$1@news.povray.org>
somebody wrote:

> new would be adopted. Maybe if makers of non-proprietary standards were not
> so stuck up and conservative, they could anticipate or even shape new
> trends. Why don't we have a practical non-proprietary 2D vector, 3D,
> mathamatical expression, printable document, ...etc standards? The
> bureacracy of non-proprietary standards failed to deliver what the users
> wanted, but instead fell in love with impractical but academic standards
> following the one bloated solution for every problem mantra. Enter vendors
> of proprietary software to fill the void.

What I'd love to see is a non-proprietary standard for rich, interactive 
web applications, like flash, that had a full-featured authoring package 
backing them. If you make it easy for content creators to create content 
in your format, then you'll have content in that format.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 23 Jun 2009 17:12:22
Message: <4a414536$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:

> What I'd love to see is a non-proprietary standard for rich, interactive 
> web applications, like flash, that had a full-featured authoring package 
> backing them. If you make it easy for content creators to create content 
> in your format, then you'll have content in that format.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_5

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 23 Jun 2009 18:28:05
Message: <4a4156f5$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> What I'd love to see is a non-proprietary standard for rich, interactive 
> web applications, like flash, that had a full-featured authoring package 
> backing them. 

And why would someone create such a thing?

The only group I can see doing something like that would be a place like 
google, where their complement is powerful web browsers and they would 
prefer such a thing get implemented even if they don't implement it.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 24 Jun 2009 08:13:02
Message: <4a42184e$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_5
> 

What? No 3D?
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~Mike


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 24 Jun 2009 08:16:35
Message: <4a421923$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> And why would someone create such a thing?
> 
> The only group I can see doing something like that would be a place like 
> google, where their complement is powerful web browsers and they would 
> prefer such a thing get implemented even if they don't implement it.

Someone who produces the authoring tool for such a thing?

The authoring tool could be a commercial package, but produce a standard 
format that is well-documented enough to allow 3rd parties to develop a 
viewer or plug-in for such a format.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 24 Jun 2009 08:18:28
Message: <4a421994$1@news.povray.org>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_5
> 
> What? No 3D?

There's always VRML. ;-)


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 24 Jun 2009 08:45:40
Message: <4a421ff4$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> There's always VRML. ;-)

Wow, that's so last century.

Speaking of, whatever happened to VRML?

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~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 24 Jun 2009 08:59:30
Message: <4a422332$1@news.povray.org>
>> There's always VRML. ;-)
> 
> Wow, that's so last century.
> 
> Speaking of, whatever happened to VRML?

One day you're a hero...
Next day you're a clown...
There's nothing that is inbetween,
Now you're a 21st century man.

Apparently it came along at the wrong time (i.e., before broadband), and 
flopped. Apparently X3D superceeded it, but that looks like being a flop 
too...


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 24 Jun 2009 11:21:37
Message: <4a424481$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> The authoring tool could be a commercial package, but produce a standard 
> format that is well-documented enough to allow 3rd parties to develop a 
> viewer or plug-in for such a format.

First you need the format and wide-spread adoption. *Then* you can sell the 
authoring tool.  And the people using the result don't really care all that 
much whether it's "open" or not. Only the Linux-desktop weenies care whether
something is "open" because they don't have enough market share to get 
people to work for them for free.

The better way to go would be to take a popular proprietary standard that 
already has an authoring tool, and then make it open enough to clone. Then 
the open source proponents will clone it.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Monday WTF
Date: 26 Jun 2009 13:52:39
Message: <4a450ae7$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> namely silverlight?
> 
> Doesn't Moonlight work?

Wine exists. That doesn't stop me from complaining about Windows-only apps.


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