Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> It works with vim, tho. :-)
> 
>   Yeah, rather than take 2 seconds to diff the files in the mac computer,
> he would have to spend at least 2 hours to find out how to do the same
> thing in vim (and this after he had found and installed the program).

And even more, vim can't diff. It can only run 'diff' to do the comparison,
then do stuff with its output.

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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>>   "How do I do that?" Right, he was in Windows, and there's no diff in
>>> Windows. We pondered for a moment what would be the easiest solution.
> 
>> Download diff for Windows? :-)
> 
>   That's precisely the problem I was talking about.

I was just answering the question. I understood your point, but the easiest 
solution would have been to download the stand-alone diff executable. :-)

>   (Additionally, Windows' command prompt just isn't as easy to use as
> unix's. It's just a PitA to try to do anything in it.)

No argument there.

>   Yeah, rather than take 2 seconds to diff the files in the mac computer,
> he would have to spend at least 2 hours to find out how to do the same
> thing in vim (and this after he had found and installed the program).

Well, diff works from the command line just like in UNIX. Maybe 3 minutes to 
find and download diff (once you know the best search terms) and then you 
run it from the command line.

If you want side-by-side diffs, you can invoke it from vim, is all I was 
saying. The same tools work. They're just not distributed there by default.

>   I'm talking about a real, actual, concrete experience here, not some
> theoretical "methinks" thing. Diffing the files on the mac was just way,
> way less hassle than *anything* else.

OK. I'm talking *my* real actual concrete experience. I *have* diff on my 
windows machine, along with netpbm and tar and gzip and a couple other 
packages I'm used to using or that I need to talk to unix machines. It's 
less of a hassle than you think, and you only need to do it once.

It was more a FYI post ("btw, it's easy to solve this problem on Windows so 
he doesn't have to bother you next time") than it was "you're wrong."

I still copy RAR files over to a UNIX VM to take apart because I haven't 
found an easy free unrar program for Windows, so I know just what you mean. 
"diff" doesn't fall into that category, is all.

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On Fri, 15 May 2009 19:16:12 +0200, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>
> I still copy RAR files over to a UNIX VM to take apart because I haven't  
> found an easy free unrar program for Windows, so I know just what you  
> mean.

Define "easy". 7-Zip can extract RAR, if you want GUI-based. If  
command-line is your thing, UnRAR is freeware.


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Fredrik Eriksson <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote:
> 7-Zip can extract RAR

  Besides being the best (free) compression program in existence, as a
bonus. :)

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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>> It works with vim, tho. :-)
>>   Yeah, rather than take 2 seconds to diff the files in the mac computer,
>> he would have to spend at least 2 hours to find out how to do the same
>> thing in vim (and this after he had found and installed the program).
> 
> And even more, vim can't diff. It can only run 'diff' to do the comparison,
> then do stuff with its output.

I'm not sure what part of "it works with vim" is confusing you here. :-)

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Fredrik Eriksson wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2009 19:16:12 +0200, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>
>> I still copy RAR files over to a UNIX VM to take apart because I 
>> haven't found an easy free unrar program for Windows, so I know just 
>> what you mean.
> 
> Define "easy". 7-Zip can extract RAR, if you want GUI-based. If 
> command-line is your thing, UnRAR is freeware.

Thanks. I'll look around for unrar. I hadn't found that, last time, oddly 
enough.

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On Fri, 15 May 2009 20:23:53 +0200, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>
> I'll look around for unrar. I hadn't found that, last time, oddly enough.

http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm


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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>>  Not even big rich companies are safe
>> from this kind of tampering (just ask Sun Microsystems).
> 
> Sun isn't a big rich company anymore, though :)

Yeah - I heard an unsubstantiated rumour that Oracle bought them...

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On Fri, 15 May 2009 19:28:27 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>>  Not even big rich companies are safe
>>> from this kind of tampering (just ask Sun Microsystems).
>> 
>> Sun isn't a big rich company anymore, though :)
> 
> Yeah - I heard an unsubstantiated rumour that Oracle bought them...

It's not an unsubstantiated rumour - it's a fact:

http://www.oracle.com/sun/index.html

http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2009-04/sunflash.20090420.1.xml

Jim

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>>> Sun isn't a big rich company anymore, though :)
>> Yeah - I heard an unsubstantiated rumour that Oracle bought them...
> 
> It's not an unsubstantiated rumour - it's a fact:
> 
> http://www.oracle.com/sun/index.html
> 
> http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2009-04/sunflash.20090420.1.xml

...OK, so now it's substantiated rumour.

It still doesn't make any sense to me though. Sun is multiple times 
larger than Oracle - so how was Oracle able to buy them?

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